Red Mosquito

VinylGuy wrote:jesus can we ban stip on this thread? or at least ban his constant reminder of Lightning Bolt?

I come here to relax and this dude is reminding me all the time i have a vinyl thats called Lightning Bolt and contains a piece of shit called Future days

You were warned. Now, if you will excuse me, not only will I go listen to Future Days, I will make the conscious choice to listen to it INSTEAD of Around the Bend

The “To the Moon” improv might top all others.

stip wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:jesus can we ban stip on this thread? or at least ban his constant reminder of Lightning Bolt?

I come here to relax and this dude is reminding me all the time i have a vinyl thats called Lightning Bolt and contains a piece of shit called Future days

You were warned. Now, if you will excuse me, not only will I go listen to Future Days, I will make the conscious choice to listen to it INSTEAD of Around the Bend

oh my god

thats it, im calling the police

stip wrote:

epilogue wrote:Stip does not like moon or tree references. Only waves.

No, moon references are acceptable. I am presently surprised by how often they appear. Only trees are no good.


The superior wave to tree ratio is just another point in Lightning Bolt’s favor

i'm not sure any of the references to wave are about being high.

how about rivers? stars? sun?

oasisfan35 wrote:

epilogue wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

epilogue wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

epilogue wrote:

warehouse wrote:

Jorge wrote:

96583UP wrote:it is interesting how subtle-y No Code is actually a very rocky album

Red Mosquito
Habit
Hail, Hail
Lukin

these songs all nuke

which offsets the belly-dancing of Who You Are

If Red Mosquito was the lead single the world would think about that era of PJ much differently

"In My Tree" is also a straight-up hard rock song. The fact that it has an unusual drum beat (for them) doesn't make it something different.

how different is it than WMA? is it the bo diddley thing?

Habit legit sucks

epilogue on 2025-05-05 at 1:36 pm wrote:Why is everyone so snippy today?

Nice try! I've always hated Habit. That's not just today, my guy.

Oh I know, I was going to note that but went anti-snippy "fuck it"

I acknowledge your disdain for Habit but don't understand it... you can have Lukin (slow) all to yourself though.

Whoa, why do I get Slow Lukin?

Did you not enjoy it a bunch? This could be a total misremember...

It's cool, a fun little novelty. I like it, but it doesn't touch OG Lukin

epilogue wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

epilogue wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

epilogue wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

epilogue wrote:

warehouse wrote:

Jorge wrote:

96583UP wrote:it is interesting how subtle-y No Code is actually a very rocky album

Red Mosquito
Habit
Hail, Hail
Lukin

these songs all nuke

which offsets the belly-dancing of Who You Are

If Red Mosquito was the lead single the world would think about that era of PJ much differently

"In My Tree" is also a straight-up hard rock song. The fact that it has an unusual drum beat (for them) doesn't make it something different.

how different is it than WMA? is it the bo diddley thing?

Habit legit sucks

epilogue on 2025-05-05 at 1:36 pm wrote:Why is everyone so snippy today?

Nice try! I've always hated Habit. That's not just today, my guy.

Oh I know, I was going to note that but went anti-snippy "fuck it"

I acknowledge your disdain for Habit but don't understand it... you can have Lukin (slow) all to yourself though.

Whoa, why do I get Slow Lukin?

Did you not enjoy it a bunch? This could be a total misremember...

It's cool, a fun little novelty. I like it, but it doesn't touch OG Lukin

100 Pacer is better

fail fail the yucky ones!

wease wrote:

epilogue wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

epilogue wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

epilogue wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

epilogue wrote:

warehouse wrote:

Jorge wrote:

96583UP wrote:it is interesting how subtle-y No Code is actually a very rocky album

Red Mosquito
Habit
Hail, Hail
Lukin

these songs all nuke

which offsets the belly-dancing of Who You Are

If Red Mosquito was the lead single the world would think about that era of PJ much differently

"In My Tree" is also a straight-up hard rock song. The fact that it has an unusual drum beat (for them) doesn't make it something different.

how different is it than WMA? is it the bo diddley thing?

Habit legit sucks

epilogue on 2025-05-05 at 1:36 pm wrote:Why is everyone so snippy today?

Nice try! I've always hated Habit. That's not just today, my guy.

Oh I know, I was going to note that but went anti-snippy "fuck it"

I acknowledge your disdain for Habit but don't understand it... you can have Lukin (slow) all to yourself though.

Whoa, why do I get Slow Lukin?

Did you not enjoy it a bunch? This could be a total misremember...

It's cool, a fun little novelty. I like it, but it doesn't touch OG Lukin

100 Pacer is better

I don't know what that is.

I was thinking that No Code could be the band’s most experimental album, even though Vitalogy is the consensus pick. Hear me out:

Stylistic Diversity: No Code ventures into a broader range of genres—garage rock (“Hail, Hail”), worldbeat (“Who You Are”), spoken word (“I’m Open”), and psychedelic rock (“Red Mosquito”). It’s less cohesive than earlier albums by design.

Mood & Themes: It’s more introspective and fragmented, dealing with themes of spirituality, disillusionment, and self-discovery. It doesn’t offer the arena-rock immediacy of Ten or even Vitalogy.

Band Dynamics: The band was going through internal tensions, which fed into its risk-taking, unpolished approach. The looser, more organic production adds to the “anti-commercial” feel.

In contrast, Vitalogy is indeed weird—it has experimental interludes like “Bugs” and “Hey Foxymophandlemama, That’s Me”, but it’s still rooted more in punk, hard rock, and the grunge sensibility. Its experiments are more like odd detours, while No Code is experimental at its core.

I think No Code was also a very different way the band was produced, in terms of how the album is mixed and how it sounds. Ed´s voice is kinda drown and the band sounds as Crazy Horse as it gets.

At least it was the first time that i thought of that, like where is ed?

The “de-Edification” of the band definitely led them into some interesting musical territory.

BlakeWB wrote:The “de-Edification” of the band definitely led them into some interesting musical territory.

i thought eddie vedder was the primary song writer of the album?

warehouse wrote:

BlakeWB wrote:The “de-Edification” of the band definitely led them into some interesting musical territory.

i thought eddie vedder was the primary song writer of the album?

nope, they all worked in the songs and brought ideas

warehouse wrote:

BlakeWB wrote:The “de-Edification” of the band definitely led them into some interesting musical territory.

i thought eddie vedder was the primary song writer of the album?

Maybe I should have said “the de-Edificatin in the mix,” meaning his voice is less central to the sounds, like VinylGuy said.

BlakeWB wrote:

warehouse wrote:

BlakeWB wrote:The “de-Edification” of the band definitely led them into some interesting musical territory.

i thought eddie vedder was the primary song writer of the album?

Maybe I should have said “the de-Edificatin in the mix,” meaning his voice is less central to the sounds, like VinylGuy said.

i think yeah, at least in how it was perceived at the time. Ed also began to change how he sang, that helped.

epilogue wrote:

wease wrote:

epilogue wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

epilogue wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

epilogue wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

epilogue wrote:

warehouse wrote:

Jorge wrote:

96583UP wrote:it is interesting how subtle-y No Code is actually a very rocky album

Red Mosquito
Habit
Hail, Hail
Lukin

these songs all nuke

which offsets the belly-dancing of Who You Are

If Red Mosquito was the lead single the world would think about that era of PJ much differently

"In My Tree" is also a straight-up hard rock song. The fact that it has an unusual drum beat (for them) doesn't make it something different.

how different is it than WMA? is it the bo diddley thing?

Habit legit sucks

epilogue on 2025-05-05 at 1:36 pm wrote:Why is everyone so snippy today?

Nice try! I've always hated Habit. That's not just today, my guy.

Oh I know, I was going to note that but went anti-snippy "fuck it"

I acknowledge your disdain for Habit but don't understand it... you can have Lukin (slow) all to yourself though.

Whoa, why do I get Slow Lukin?

Did you not enjoy it a bunch? This could be a total misremember...

It's cool, a fun little novelty. I like it, but it doesn't touch OG Lukin

100 Pacer is better

I don't know what that is.

Don’t play games with me

wease wrote:

epilogue wrote:

wease wrote:

epilogue wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

epilogue wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

epilogue wrote:

oasisfan35 wrote:

epilogue wrote:

warehouse wrote:

Jorge wrote:

96583UP wrote:it is interesting how subtle-y No Code is actually a very rocky album

Red Mosquito
Habit
Hail, Hail
Lukin

these songs all nuke

which offsets the belly-dancing of Who You Are

If Red Mosquito was the lead single the world would think about that era of PJ much differently

"In My Tree" is also a straight-up hard rock song. The fact that it has an unusual drum beat (for them) doesn't make it something different.

how different is it than WMA? is it the bo diddley thing?

Habit legit sucks

epilogue on 2025-05-05 at 1:36 pm wrote:Why is everyone so snippy today?

Nice try! I've always hated Habit. That's not just today, my guy.

Oh I know, I was going to note that but went anti-snippy "fuck it"

I acknowledge your disdain for Habit but don't understand it... you can have Lukin (slow) all to yourself though.

Whoa, why do I get Slow Lukin?

Did you not enjoy it a bunch? This could be a total misremember...

It's cool, a fun little novelty. I like it, but it doesn't touch OG Lukin

100 Pacer is better

I don't know what that is.

Don’t play games with me

I'm serious!

VinylGuy wrote:

BlakeWB wrote:

warehouse wrote:

BlakeWB wrote:The “de-Edification” of the band definitely led them into some interesting musical territory.

i thought eddie vedder was the primary song writer of the album?

Maybe I should have said “the de-Edificatin in the mix,” meaning his voice is less central to the sounds, like VinylGuy said.

i think yeah, at least in how it was perceived at the time. Ed also began to change how he sang, that helped.

helped is not the word i would have used

de-edification plus Crazy Horse = bottom of the pack

(though that’s not true - like Stone, I recognize Binaurall is the true bottom.

I wonder where he ranks Lightning Bolt. Surely above No Code, at least.

Troll Stip is fun.