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Re: TV: Breaking Bad

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 5:17 pm
by Strat
EJ wrote:
Stickman wrote:Odd how no ones really talked about the Todd teased death scene. I can't be the only one that thought Jack was gonna off him for killing the little kid on the bike.
You're not alone. That was my initial reaction too.

I'm still not sure why he held off...

Re: TV: Breaking Bad

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 5:20 pm
by kreng
didn't Todd tell the uncle that he had shot the kid in the opening episode this year?

Re: TV: Breaking Bad

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 5:21 pm
by EJ
Strat wrote:
EJ wrote:
Stickman wrote:Odd how no ones really talked about the Todd teased death scene. I can't be the only one that thought Jack was gonna off him for killing the little kid on the bike.
You're not alone. That was my initial reaction too.

I'm still not sure why he held off...
Not sure, guess the family bond? Otherwise, I think he would have. I mean, Jack didn't care about the meth business anymore.

Re: TV: Breaking Bad

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 5:22 pm
by Strat
EJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
EJ wrote:
Stickman wrote:Odd how no ones really talked about the Todd teased death scene. I can't be the only one that thought Jack was gonna off him for killing the little kid on the bike.
You're not alone. That was my initial reaction too.

I'm still not sure why he held off...
Not sure, guess the family bond? Otherwise, I think he would have. I mean, Jack didn't care about the meth business anymore.

I can't imagine there is much of a family bond if he is willing to take him out to the dark and line him up in front of his goons and tease such a thing....

He must need him for something. Or for him to lure Lydia in and blow them all away.

Re: TV: Breaking Bad

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 5:35 pm
by EJ
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Re: TV: Breaking Bad

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 5:43 pm
by Jorge
Strat wrote:
EJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
EJ wrote:
Stickman wrote:Odd how no ones really talked about the Todd teased death scene. I can't be the only one that thought Jack was gonna off him for killing the little kid on the bike.
You're not alone. That was my initial reaction too.

I'm still not sure why he held off...
Not sure, guess the family bond? Otherwise, I think he would have. I mean, Jack didn't care about the meth business anymore.

I can't imagine there is much of a family bond if he is willing to take him out to the dark and line him up in front of his goons and tease such a thing....

He must need him for something. Or for him to lure Lydia in and blow them all away.
I didn't interpret it as any sort of tease. Jack was pissed off that Jesse ratted Todd out, so he was on his way to kill him personally. Todd stopped him and pleaded with him to keep Jesse alive so they could keep the quality of the product up. I don't think Jack ever intended to kill Todd, or even to scare him. What kind of a moral code do you think these people have? They don't care about killing a kid.

Re: TV: Breaking Bad

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 5:44 pm
by Strat
theplatypus wrote:
Strat wrote:
EJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
EJ wrote:
Stickman wrote:Odd how no ones really talked about the Todd teased death scene. I can't be the only one that thought Jack was gonna off him for killing the little kid on the bike.
You're not alone. That was my initial reaction too.

I'm still not sure why he held off...
Not sure, guess the family bond? Otherwise, I think he would have. I mean, Jack didn't care about the meth business anymore.

I can't imagine there is much of a family bond if he is willing to take him out to the dark and line him up in front of his goons and tease such a thing....

He must need him for something. Or for him to lure Lydia in and blow them all away.
I didn't interpret it as any sort of tease. Jack was pissed off that Jesse ratted Todd out, so he was on his way to kill him personally. Todd stopped him and pleaded with him to keep Jesse alive so they could keep the quality of the product up. What kind of a moral code do you think these people have? They don't care about killing a kid.
I thought he would kill Todd because he was getting to close to Lydia or that Todd was becoming too much of a threat to being a meth kingpin....

Re: TV: Breaking Bad

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 5:48 pm
by EJ
As it was unfolding, I thought he might kill Jesse & Todd. Just loose ends that Jack didn't want.

Re: TV: Breaking Bad

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 5:50 pm
by Thejambi
theplatypus wrote:
Strat wrote:
EJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
EJ wrote:
Stickman wrote:Odd how no ones really talked about the Todd teased death scene. I can't be the only one that thought Jack was gonna off him for killing the little kid on the bike.
You're not alone. That was my initial reaction too.

I'm still not sure why he held off...
Not sure, guess the family bond? Otherwise, I think he would have. I mean, Jack didn't care about the meth business anymore.

I can't imagine there is much of a family bond if he is willing to take him out to the dark and line him up in front of his goons and tease such a thing....

He must need him for something. Or for him to lure Lydia in and blow them all away.
I didn't interpret it as any sort of tease. Jack was pissed off that Jesse ratted Todd out, so he was on his way to kill him personally. Todd stopped him and pleaded with him to keep Jesse alive so they could keep the quality of the product up. I don't think Jack ever intended to kill Todd, or even to scare him. What kind of a moral code do you think these people have? They don't care about killing a kid.
This is how I saw it.

Re: TV: Breaking Bad

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 5:59 pm
by Norah
theplatypus wrote:
Strat wrote:
EJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
EJ wrote:
Stickman wrote:Odd how no ones really talked about the Todd teased death scene. I can't be the only one that thought Jack was gonna off him for killing the little kid on the bike.
You're not alone. That was my initial reaction too.

I'm still not sure why he held off...
Not sure, guess the family bond? Otherwise, I think he would have. I mean, Jack didn't care about the meth business anymore.

I can't imagine there is much of a family bond if he is willing to take him out to the dark and line him up in front of his goons and tease such a thing....

He must need him for something. Or for him to lure Lydia in and blow them all away.
I didn't interpret it as any sort of tease. Jack was pissed off that Jesse ratted Todd out, so he was on his way to kill him personally. Todd stopped him and pleaded with him to keep Jesse alive so they could keep the quality of the product up. I don't think Jack ever intended to kill Todd, or even to scare him. What kind of a moral code do you think these people have? They don't care about killing a kid.
This. And like someone else said, Todd already told Jack that story.

Re: TV: Breaking Bad

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 6:22 pm
by tommymtcom
cutuphalfdead wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
Strat wrote:
EJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
EJ wrote:
Stickman wrote:Odd how no ones really talked about the Todd teased death scene. I can't be the only one that thought Jack was gonna off him for killing the little kid on the bike.
You're not alone. That was my initial reaction too.

I'm still not sure why he held off...
Not sure, guess the family bond? Otherwise, I think he would have. I mean, Jack didn't care about the meth business anymore.

I can't imagine there is much of a family bond if he is willing to take him out to the dark and line him up in front of his goons and tease such a thing....

He must need him for something. Or for him to lure Lydia in and blow them all away.
I didn't interpret it as any sort of tease. Jack was pissed off that Jesse ratted Todd out, so he was on his way to kill him personally. Todd stopped him and pleaded with him to keep Jesse alive so they could keep the quality of the product up. I don't think Jack ever intended to kill Todd, or even to scare him. What kind of a moral code do you think these people have? They don't care about killing a kid.
This. And like someone else said, Todd already told Jack that story.
He left the child-murder part out of the story he told Uncle Jack.

Either way, I agree that Jack never intended to kill Todd.

Re: TV: Breaking Bad

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 6:22 pm
by Norah
tommymctom wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
Strat wrote:
EJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
EJ wrote:
Stickman wrote:Odd how no ones really talked about the Todd teased death scene. I can't be the only one that thought Jack was gonna off him for killing the little kid on the bike.
You're not alone. That was my initial reaction too.

I'm still not sure why he held off...
Not sure, guess the family bond? Otherwise, I think he would have. I mean, Jack didn't care about the meth business anymore.

I can't imagine there is much of a family bond if he is willing to take him out to the dark and line him up in front of his goons and tease such a thing....

He must need him for something. Or for him to lure Lydia in and blow them all away.
I didn't interpret it as any sort of tease. Jack was pissed off that Jesse ratted Todd out, so he was on his way to kill him personally. Todd stopped him and pleaded with him to keep Jesse alive so they could keep the quality of the product up. I don't think Jack ever intended to kill Todd, or even to scare him. What kind of a moral code do you think these people have? They don't care about killing a kid.
This. And like someone else said, Todd already told Jack that story.
He left the child-murder part out of the story he told Uncle Jack.

Either way, I agree that Jack never intended to kill Todd.
Oh, my bad.

Re: TV: Breaking Bad

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 6:26 pm
by Jorge
http://www.buzzfeed.com/robinedds/an-ex ... eaking-bad

An Exhaustive Rundown of Every Single Death in Breaking Bad

Re: TV: Breaking Bad

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 6:33 pm
by @SkitchP
I assure you I can kill you from way over here if it makes you feel better.

Re: TV: Breaking Bad

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 6:37 pm
by BDB
cutuphalfdead wrote:
tommymctom wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
Strat wrote:
EJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
EJ wrote:
Stickman wrote:Odd how no ones really talked about the Todd teased death scene. I can't be the only one that thought Jack was gonna off him for killing the little kid on the bike.
You're not alone. That was my initial reaction too.

I'm still not sure why he held off...
Not sure, guess the family bond? Otherwise, I think he would have. I mean, Jack didn't care about the meth business anymore.

I can't imagine there is much of a family bond if he is willing to take him out to the dark and line him up in front of his goons and tease such a thing....

He must need him for something. Or for him to lure Lydia in and blow them all away.
I didn't interpret it as any sort of tease. Jack was pissed off that Jesse ratted Todd out, so he was on his way to kill him personally. Todd stopped him and pleaded with him to keep Jesse alive so they could keep the quality of the product up. I don't think Jack ever intended to kill Todd, or even to scare him. What kind of a moral code do you think these people have? They don't care about killing a kid.
This. And like someone else said, Todd already told Jack that story.
He left the child-murder part out of the story he told Uncle Jack.

Either way, I agree that Jack never intended to kill Todd.
Oh, my bad.
i thought maybe for a split second he was going to kill him. But doesnt Jack need him to cook? just becuase they have walt's money doesnt mean they are leaving the business, right?

Re: TV: Breaking Bad

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 6:44 pm
by Stickman
theplatypus wrote:
Strat wrote:
EJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
EJ wrote:
Stickman wrote:Odd how no ones really talked about the Todd teased death scene. I can't be the only one that thought Jack was gonna off him for killing the little kid on the bike.
You're not alone. That was my initial reaction too.

I'm still not sure why he held off...
Not sure, guess the family bond? Otherwise, I think he would have. I mean, Jack didn't care about the meth business anymore.

I can't imagine there is much of a family bond if he is willing to take him out to the dark and line him up in front of his goons and tease such a thing....

He must need him for something. Or for him to lure Lydia in and blow them all away.
I didn't interpret it as any sort of tease. Jack was pissed off that Jesse ratted Todd out, so he was on his way to kill him personally. Todd stopped him and pleaded with him to keep Jesse alive so they could keep the quality of the product up. I don't think Jack ever intended to kill Todd, or even to scare him. What kind of a moral code do you think these people have? They don't care about killing a kid.
How could you not see the tease? He walked him over with his arm around his neck, then walked back to where the rest of the gang was standing, leaving Todd looking at a firing squad. It's happened enough times in other movies to be plausible.

Re: TV: Breaking Bad

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 7:20 pm
by griffinxi
Stickman wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
Strat wrote:
EJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
EJ wrote:
Stickman wrote:Odd how no ones really talked about the Todd teased death scene. I can't be the only one that thought Jack was gonna off him for killing the little kid on the bike.
You're not alone. That was my initial reaction too.

I'm still not sure why he held off...
Not sure, guess the family bond? Otherwise, I think he would have. I mean, Jack didn't care about the meth business anymore.

I can't imagine there is much of a family bond if he is willing to take him out to the dark and line him up in front of his goons and tease such a thing....

He must need him for something. Or for him to lure Lydia in and blow them all away.
I didn't interpret it as any sort of tease. Jack was pissed off that Jesse ratted Todd out, so he was on his way to kill him personally. Todd stopped him and pleaded with him to keep Jesse alive so they could keep the quality of the product up. I don't think Jack ever intended to kill Todd, or even to scare him. What kind of a moral code do you think these people have? They don't care about killing a kid.
How could you not see the tease? He walked him over with his arm around his neck, then walked back to where the rest of the gang was standing, leaving Todd looking at a firing squad. It's happened enough times in other movies to be plausible.

I know what you mean...though I think it was just a way to cause people to hyperventilate (so yeah, I guess a tease). I didn't cognitively think Jack was going to shoot him, but I do recognize that the way the scene was organized certainly gave it the latitude to go that way.

Re: TV: Breaking Bad

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 7:45 pm
by Farmer John
theplatypus wrote:http://www.buzzfeed.com/robinedds/an-exhaustive-rundown-of-every-single-death-in-breaking-bad

An Exhaustive Rundown of Every Single Death in Breaking Bad
19. Leonel Salamanca

Episode: Season 3, Episode 8
Cause of death: Killed by Mike Ehrmantraut.
Mike killed the other cousin in the hospital? I don't remember this.

Re: TV: Breaking Bad

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 7:55 pm
by Farmer John
I also didn't think Jack was ever going to shoot Todd, but thinking back on it, I can see why some people got that impression.

Jack's smile/laugh right after Todd convinced him to keep the meth business going was hilarious.

Re: TV: Breaking Bad

Posted: Fri September 27, 2013 7:59 pm
by Mike
Farmer John wrote:
theplatypus wrote:http://www.buzzfeed.com/robinedds/an-exhaustive-rundown-of-every-single-death-in-breaking-bad

An Exhaustive Rundown of Every Single Death in Breaking Bad
19. Leonel Salamanca

Episode: Season 3, Episode 8
Cause of death: Killed by Mike Ehrmantraut.
Mike killed the other cousin in the hospital? I don't remember this.
"As Mike Ehrmantraut is seen exiting soon after this (disposing of a hypodermic needle on his way out), it is implied that he gives Leonel a fatal injection under orders from Gus to prevent him from revealing to Bolsa that it was Gus who sanctioned the hit on Hank ("I See You")." - BB Wiki