Red Mosquito

I'm trying to figure what exactly killed the dude.. it seems like he hit his head bad on the fall outta the ring.. I can't imagine that simple dropkick doing it

BigRedLedbetter wrote:

numbers wrote:Orton can put on a good match and crafted a character that can be very good when executed the right way. He's light years better than those guys. Rollins has improved dramatically as a talker since he went solo, which like you said, is to his credit. Reigns has regressed in the last few months, but most of that is because of how he is booked. He's had like 4 character changes since he came back from injury. First was that absurd superhero gimmick they were giving him, then it was the lone wolf thing they did after the rumble(which I thought was actually working for a couple weeks,) now it's this I believe underdog thing which is laughable, and I'm sure it will change again after Wrestlemania.

Orton can be penthouse or outhouse. During the Evolution and legend killer days I really thought Orton had what it took to be one of the all time greats. Not like Hogan, Austin or Rock status but maybe a step under that. He had some incredible matches with Foley, Benoit and Taker a decade ago. Even could get some good matches out of Cena. When he turned face in 2009-2010 (Im foggy when exactly) he went way down hill. This probably had a lot to do with his substance abuse issues. But the business is in his blood. There is a lot to be said for guys like that who know how the game is played. But Orton's face run from 2010-2013 was essentially forgettable and unwatchable outside of a handful of matches.

His matches with Christian during his face run were pretty great.

The crowd just doesn't get behind Orton when he's a face, I though he was primed for a big run as a face in late 2004 but he didn't take off. Part of that is because HHH squashed him right out of the gate, but it was pretty obvious he needed to be a heel within a couple months.

The finish to Raw last night was so stupid. Man, I hope Lesnar wins Sunday.

numbers wrote:The finish to Raw last night was so stupid. Man, I hope Lesnar wins Sunday.

I'm convinced they made such a push to re-sign Lesnar because they realized Reigns was nowhere close to being ready

MattA75 wrote:

numbers wrote:The finish to Raw last night was so stupid. Man, I hope Lesnar wins Sunday.

I'm convinced they made such a push to re-sign Lesnar because they realized Reigns was nowhere close to being ready

No way Reigns walks out of Mania as champion. I'd seriously be stunned and disappointed. It's just not going to happen.

Brock retains. MAYBE Rollins cashes in but I could see that being a few weeks for now.

I'll be livid if Reigns walks out with the title. I think they should have Lesnar beat Reigns in a competitive match, then have Rollins cash in and Lesnar win again in another 10 minute-ish competitive match. Then he's on Raw the next night to gloat and then he goes away until Summerslam again. In the meantime the IC and US titles are elevated to the main event and the whole summer builds up to who is going to face Brock at Summerslam.

numbers wrote:I'll be livid if Reigns walks out with the title. I think they should have Lesnar beat Reigns in a competitive match, then have Rollins cash in and Lesnar win again in another 10 minute-ish competitive match. Then he's on Raw the next night to gloat and then he goes away until Summerslam again. In the meantime the IC and US titles are elevated to the main event and the whole summer builds up to who is going to face Brock at Summerslam.

im pretty sure at this point they know it wouldnt be good if Reigns walks out as the champ, the crowd really will shit on it, but ive gotten to the point that i dont mind Reigns, he still needs some work but as far as not being ready, its not that its just that the crowds dont want what WWE wants imo. i think Reigns is fine, and hopefully he can put on a good match with Brock, but the biggest thing to come out of this is that if WWE has plans to push someone to the moon with a Cena push then they need to keep it quiet. if it hadnt been known since the shield breakup that they wanted Reigns to win the title at WM31 then i think the reaction for reigns would be a lot better.

WWE will do the right thing to correct their mistake once again though and either have Brock win and stand tall at the end of Mania or will have Rollins cash in and walk out as champ, but unless they do somehting crazy then they know now that Reigns leaving as champ will not go over well at all. the only thing i can think of to make it somewhat go over is if somehow the match became no DQ and Reigns just wound up with a chair and just demolished Brock to instantly turn mega heel. but no chance of that so Brock or Rollins should walk out as champ.

that match last night with Owens and Balor was pretty damn good

Spoiler: show

just incase there are more like me that usually dont watch nxt till the weekend ill spoiler the results. once Balor came down to the ring with out the Demon paint i figured they want to save that only for matches he will win, i didnt think they were ready to take title off of Owens yet so i assumed Balor would lose, and while its still pretty cool that he does the Demon, it will suck to know for sure he will win when he does it, it will be a spoiler of its own

hey doc!

E.H. Ruddock wrote:hey doc!

hows it going? any chance me drawing you into this thread every so often is turning you into a wrestling fan?

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:that match last night with Owens and Balor was pretty damn good

Spoiler: show

just incase there are more like me that usually dont watch nxt till the weekend ill spoiler the results. once Balor came down to the ring with out the Demon paint i figured they want to save that only for matches he will win, i didnt think they were ready to take title off of Owens yet so i assumed Balor would lose, and while its still pretty cool that he does the Demon, it will suck to know for sure he will win when he does it, it will be a spoiler of its own

Great match, both of those guys are elite talents.

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:hey doc!

hows it going? any chance me drawing you into this thread every so often is turning you into a wrestling fan?

My dad still watches it, I used to but not anymore. Occasionally on Monday night I'll turn it over to see a match just to send my dad some random text about it, lol.

numbers wrote:

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:that match last night with Owens and Balor was pretty damn good

Spoiler: show

just incase there are more like me that usually dont watch nxt till the weekend ill spoiler the results. once Balor came down to the ring with out the Demon paint i figured they want to save that only for matches he will win, i didnt think they were ready to take title off of Owens yet so i assumed Balor would lose, and while its still pretty cool that he does the Demon, it will suck to know for sure he will win when he does it, it will be a spoiler of its own

Great match, both of those guys are elite talents.

This. Fantastic match.

Hilarious.........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYvMOf3 ... e=youtu.be

Thank god for Lesnar, his resigning makes Mania so much more interesting now. At least there is some doubt what could happen in the main event.

Reigns won't win the title. If he does Rollins cashes in minutes later.

I could still see Reigns winning via Heyman and turning heel.

numbers wrote:I could still see Reigns winning via Heyman and turning heel.

If they want to set up Rollins to get over with the crowd, nothing could be better than cashing in and beating Reigns.