Pretty inconsistent with picking a SCOTUS who has argued in favor of a ruling that could have led to for-profit businesses having a right to discriminate against gay people.Bi_3 wrote:Obama’s Protections for L.G.B.T. Workers Will Remain Under Trump:
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If the courts overturn the protections, Trump can throw up his hands and say, "Sorry, I like the gays! Not my fault, but thanks for the congrats."McParadigm wrote:Pretty inconsistent with picking a SCOTUS who has argued in favor of a ruling that could have led to for-profit businesses having a right to discriminate against gay people.Bi_3 wrote:Obama’s Protections for L.G.B.T. Workers Will Remain Under Trump:
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/u ... rkers.html
McParadigm wrote:lol
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he is the puppet master--- wrote:Fascinating read, in no small part because this is what I do for a living. Even more fascinating is that Steve Bannon is on the board of the analytics firm that delivered Trump the win.
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/big-da ... exit-trump
wonder if the puppet will realize that his master makes people hate him; and then tries to get rid of him
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pnjguy wrote:I think you guys are underestimating Bannon.
Didn't many outlets report Miller saying "They're going to go crazy on tv, ignore them."
Bannon is VTech to Georgetown to Harvard to Goldman. That's the path of a person far smarter than I, but I don't buy the article's 'consolidating power to a facist regime' bit. I think Bannon is an actual nationalist (he's white, so "white nationalist" is an easy leap for the media), and someone like that in power in the US scares the shit out of people who want to create a more equitable world, but it hardly makes him fascist.
Where I feel the article is right is that the rapid fire of poorly written EOs is intentional. It's designed to overwhelm and confuse the media, the political parties, and activists on both sides. He's giving them something else to get caught up in before they can mount a counterattack on the previous action. It's a political no huddle offense and it's quite a brilliant strategy.
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Trumps EO's smell of incompetence more than some mastermind diabolical scheme
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Sounds a bit like something the political press would say circa January 2016, yet here we are.Strat wrote:Trumps EO's smell of incompetence more than some mastermind diabolical scheme
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It will be a cold day in hell before I start praising their strategy - which may not be that far off.
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Jerry Falwell Jr is tasked with reforming higher education.
Expect a lot more acceptance of "credit for cash" designs, dissolution of stringent accreditation practices, and more opportunities for Trump U-like grifting.
Ultimately, it will push the bachelor's degree further into being the new high school diploma, guarantee a lot more student debt, and make it a lot harder for medical schools to vet candidates for academic quality.
Expect a lot more acceptance of "credit for cash" designs, dissolution of stringent accreditation practices, and more opportunities for Trump U-like grifting.
Ultimately, it will push the bachelor's degree further into being the new high school diploma, guarantee a lot more student debt, and make it a lot harder for medical schools to vet candidates for academic quality.
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The prevailing thought during the campaigns was that George W. Bush was a bumbling fool and Donald Trump was an evil businessman genius. The truth may be a lot closer to the exact opposite.Strat wrote:Trumps EO's smell of incompetence more than some mastermind diabolical scheme
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Frederick Douglass has done an amazing job, and is getting recognized more and more.
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Can we please stop calling news we dont like "fake news" fuck.
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McParadigm wrote:
Frederick Douglass has done an amazing job, and is getting recognized more and more.

McParadigm wrote:lol
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I still can't believe this moron is my president.Simple Torture wrote:McParadigm wrote:
Frederick Douglass has done an amazing job, and is getting recognized more and more.
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My god. This happens far too often. Fucking nut jobs out there, man.
http://www.vaildaily.com/news/aspen-bus ... portrayed/
From Facebook to Yelp, an Aspen business has been blistered with criticism over an exchange last week with a customer who told national media outlets that she was refused service because of her support for Donald Trump.
The owner of Suitable for Framing, however, insisted Monday that her business practice was falsely portrayed by local resident Katie Richter when she was interviewed Saturday on “Fox & Friends,” whose website introduced the story with the headline: “Company refuses to frame photo for Trump supporter.”
Richter’s account not only gained traction with Fox News, it was picked up by multiple media outlets ranging from RedAlertPolitics.com to YoungCons.com.
Kris Coulon, the owner of Suitable for Framing on South Monarch Street, told The Aspen Times on Monday that the voice mailbox at her business quickly filled over the weekend — mainly with messages from callers who heard about the story and berated her. One man called her 21 times to complain, she said.
“The worst part of it is the hate,” she said.
Coulon said the media outlets did not interview her for their stories, which were based chiefly on Richter’s account of what happened Thursday at the frame shop.
Coulon said when Richter visited Suitable for Framing, the customer brought in what appeared to be invitations to an inauguration ball in honor of Trump. She also brought her laptop showing photos from the inauguration festivities.
The invitations were so water damaged, however, that they were beyond repair and could not be professionally framed or packaged with the photos, Coulon recalled telling Richter.
“And then it totally spiraled out of control,” Coulon said. “I said, ‘I can’t fix it,’ and that’s when she said, ‘You won’t do this because of Trump.’ And then the screaming started. I said, ‘I can’t fix the damage.’ And she didn’t want to hear it.”
Richter, who attended the inauguration ceremony in Washington, D.C., on Jan. 20, rejected interview requests from The Aspen Times on Monday and Tuesday, instead sending a near 1,200-word email to the newspaper (see sidebar on page A9) offering her version of the story.
“I am also uploading this to your Facebook page so that you have no way to falsely report this incident,” she wrote in an email to the Times.
On the same day as the incident in question, Richter posted her first in a string of messages on The Aspen Times’ Facebook page.
It read, in part, “Wow! Talk about a one way street with liberals. Today I went to Suitable for Framing to get my inauguration pictures framed. As I was requesting the lady’s opinion on how best to set up the pictures, she proceeded to tell me she could not help me with my request. Befuddled, I looked up at her and realized she was refusing my business because of my support for our president, Donald Trump. As I left the store I told her I respect the freedoms of speech in this country, but that I was glad my vote canceled hers out on Election Day. I also reminded her that free market capitalism was a beautiful thing. She’d lose my business and another shop will be rewarded.”
Richter also said Coulon concocted the story about the inauguration invitations being water damaged after the media got a whiff of the incident.
“She never went back on her word until the Aspen Daily News stopped by to get her comment, and she started to backtrack when she realized I was taking this to the media,” Richter told “Fox & Friends.”
Said Coulon: “I just said, ‘I’m sorry, I can’t help you. It has water damage.’ I felt maybe she just heard what she wanted to hear.”
She added, “The thing is, I’d frame anything for anybody. I’m in the business to make money. I have plenty of clients who are major conservatives. I’ve framed things of George Bush, Cheney.”
Meanwhile, such websites as Facebook and Yelp, a consumer forum that publishes customers’ reviews of businesses, hammered Coulon and her business after her story went viral.
Among the comments on Yelp, which came from corners all over the country, included:
• “You just signed your death certificate. You’re persona non grata. You have no idea what the power of conservatism can do to your business. Next time, shut that pie hole in your face and do your job.”
• “I will never use this framing store. EVER!! Bitter, angry people that work there who only serve customers with similar political beliefs. You should be ashamed of yourselves. This is not what America stands for!”
• “If Christians can be persecuted for refusing to bake wedding cakes for a gay marriage then businesses that use political affiliations to refuse service should be as well. The story about refusing to frame someones pic from Trumps inauguration has me very unhappy. Next time in Aspen i will make a point of NOT bringing my business here.”
• “We will never be a patron of this store unless a full apology is made. Un-American and horrible customer service just destroyed your over priced store.”
As for Coulon, she said she worried a story in Aspen’s media would just aggravate a situation that she said is not salvageable.
“(Critics) don’t care if it’s verified or not,” she said. “I’ve been here 16 years and I’ve never denied service to anybody. Never. And nobody has ever yelled at us. There’s no history of me not framing, and the other part is, if we have political differences, who cares? I don’t care.”
http://www.vaildaily.com/news/aspen-bus ... portrayed/
From Facebook to Yelp, an Aspen business has been blistered with criticism over an exchange last week with a customer who told national media outlets that she was refused service because of her support for Donald Trump.
The owner of Suitable for Framing, however, insisted Monday that her business practice was falsely portrayed by local resident Katie Richter when she was interviewed Saturday on “Fox & Friends,” whose website introduced the story with the headline: “Company refuses to frame photo for Trump supporter.”
Richter’s account not only gained traction with Fox News, it was picked up by multiple media outlets ranging from RedAlertPolitics.com to YoungCons.com.
Kris Coulon, the owner of Suitable for Framing on South Monarch Street, told The Aspen Times on Monday that the voice mailbox at her business quickly filled over the weekend — mainly with messages from callers who heard about the story and berated her. One man called her 21 times to complain, she said.
“The worst part of it is the hate,” she said.
Coulon said the media outlets did not interview her for their stories, which were based chiefly on Richter’s account of what happened Thursday at the frame shop.
Coulon said when Richter visited Suitable for Framing, the customer brought in what appeared to be invitations to an inauguration ball in honor of Trump. She also brought her laptop showing photos from the inauguration festivities.
The invitations were so water damaged, however, that they were beyond repair and could not be professionally framed or packaged with the photos, Coulon recalled telling Richter.
“And then it totally spiraled out of control,” Coulon said. “I said, ‘I can’t fix it,’ and that’s when she said, ‘You won’t do this because of Trump.’ And then the screaming started. I said, ‘I can’t fix the damage.’ And she didn’t want to hear it.”
Richter, who attended the inauguration ceremony in Washington, D.C., on Jan. 20, rejected interview requests from The Aspen Times on Monday and Tuesday, instead sending a near 1,200-word email to the newspaper (see sidebar on page A9) offering her version of the story.
“I am also uploading this to your Facebook page so that you have no way to falsely report this incident,” she wrote in an email to the Times.
On the same day as the incident in question, Richter posted her first in a string of messages on The Aspen Times’ Facebook page.
It read, in part, “Wow! Talk about a one way street with liberals. Today I went to Suitable for Framing to get my inauguration pictures framed. As I was requesting the lady’s opinion on how best to set up the pictures, she proceeded to tell me she could not help me with my request. Befuddled, I looked up at her and realized she was refusing my business because of my support for our president, Donald Trump. As I left the store I told her I respect the freedoms of speech in this country, but that I was glad my vote canceled hers out on Election Day. I also reminded her that free market capitalism was a beautiful thing. She’d lose my business and another shop will be rewarded.”
Richter also said Coulon concocted the story about the inauguration invitations being water damaged after the media got a whiff of the incident.
“She never went back on her word until the Aspen Daily News stopped by to get her comment, and she started to backtrack when she realized I was taking this to the media,” Richter told “Fox & Friends.”
Said Coulon: “I just said, ‘I’m sorry, I can’t help you. It has water damage.’ I felt maybe she just heard what she wanted to hear.”
She added, “The thing is, I’d frame anything for anybody. I’m in the business to make money. I have plenty of clients who are major conservatives. I’ve framed things of George Bush, Cheney.”
Meanwhile, such websites as Facebook and Yelp, a consumer forum that publishes customers’ reviews of businesses, hammered Coulon and her business after her story went viral.
Among the comments on Yelp, which came from corners all over the country, included:
• “You just signed your death certificate. You’re persona non grata. You have no idea what the power of conservatism can do to your business. Next time, shut that pie hole in your face and do your job.”
• “I will never use this framing store. EVER!! Bitter, angry people that work there who only serve customers with similar political beliefs. You should be ashamed of yourselves. This is not what America stands for!”
• “If Christians can be persecuted for refusing to bake wedding cakes for a gay marriage then businesses that use political affiliations to refuse service should be as well. The story about refusing to frame someones pic from Trumps inauguration has me very unhappy. Next time in Aspen i will make a point of NOT bringing my business here.”
• “We will never be a patron of this store unless a full apology is made. Un-American and horrible customer service just destroyed your over priced store.”
As for Coulon, she said she worried a story in Aspen’s media would just aggravate a situation that she said is not salvageable.
“(Critics) don’t care if it’s verified or not,” she said. “I’ve been here 16 years and I’ve never denied service to anybody. Never. And nobody has ever yelled at us. There’s no history of me not framing, and the other part is, if we have political differences, who cares? I don’t care.”
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Reminds me when people say "This music is bad" when they really need to say "I don't like this music".Strat wrote:Can we please stop calling news we dont like "fake news" fuck.
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Green Habit wrote:Reminds me when people say "This music is bad" when they really need to say "I don't like this music".Strat wrote:Can we please stop calling news we dont like "fake news" fuck.
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It is ok to call us Pearl Jam fansGreen Habit wrote:Reminds me when people say "This music is bad" when they really need to say "I don't like this music".Strat wrote:Can we please stop calling news we dont like "fake news" fuck.
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So Iran has been out on notice by the US.
Given it's Donald everyone in Iraq just probably moved out.
Given it's Donald everyone in Iraq just probably moved out.
Calibrate your enthusiasm
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Exclusive: Trump to focus counter-extremism program solely on Islam - sources
The Trump administration wants to revamp and rename a U.S. government program designed to counter all violent ideologies so that it focuses solely on Islamist extremism, five people briefed on the matter told Reuters.
The program, "Countering Violent Extremism," or CVE, would be changed to "Countering Islamic Extremism" or "Countering Radical Islamic Extremism," the sources said, and would no longer target groups such as white supremacists who have also carried out bombings and shootings in the United States.
The Trump administration wants to revamp and rename a U.S. government program designed to counter all violent ideologies so that it focuses solely on Islamist extremism, five people briefed on the matter told Reuters.
The program, "Countering Violent Extremism," or CVE, would be changed to "Countering Islamic Extremism" or "Countering Radical Islamic Extremism," the sources said, and would no longer target groups such as white supremacists who have also carried out bombings and shootings in the United States.
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