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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 2:26 am
by tragabigzanda

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 2:29 am
by tragabigzanda

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 2:36 am
by McParadigm
“They are trying to transform your culture...” This really is some kind of historical moment.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 2:39 am
by wease
McParadigm wrote:“They are trying to transform your culture...” This really is some kind of historical moment.
What a fucking asshole.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 2:48 am
by digster
This was probably inevitable, some kind of event or crisis that was an inflection point for how the mushy middle of the country would view his presidency. There was bound to be some combination of the administration's inherent cruelty, incompetence and willingness to lie about everything in a way that is apparent to everyone. I'm sure his base will remain his base, but I think how the country reacts in the next week will be pretty telling for how things will be going forward.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 2:50 am
by Jorge
McParadigm wrote:“They are trying to transform your culture...” This really is some kind of historical moment.
The teleprompter is slightly too much to the left of where it should be

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 3:00 am
by McParadigm
theplatypus wrote:
McParadigm wrote:“They are trying to transform your culture...” This really is some kind of historical moment.
The teleprompter is slightly too much to the left of where it should be
That’s weird cos it’s hard right

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 3:35 am
by Norah

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 10:19 am
by Bi_3
tragabigzanda wrote:

If not cages, then what? What does the US government do with the ~250 kids a day that are caught entering the country illegally along that border everyday? What about next week? Next year? Who pays for their food? Teaches them English? Provides them healthcare?

I totally agree cages are wrong and separating families of asylum seekers is wrong (and likely illegal), but what do we actually do here to help both the asylum seeker and the people here already in need?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 10:24 am
by BurtReynolds
lol "right side of history"

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 12:11 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Bi_3 wrote:
If not cages, then what?
Umm... Maybe don't take them away from their parents?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 12:16 pm
by Bi_3
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
If not cages, then what?
Umm... Maybe don't take them away from their parents?
And put them where?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 12:26 pm
by tragabigzanda
Bi_3 wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
If not cages, then what?
Umm... Maybe don't take them away from their parents?
And put them where?
dougs house

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 1:05 pm
by digster
Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:

If not cages, then what? What does the US government do with the ~250 kids a day that are caught entering the country illegally along that border everyday? What about next week? Next year? Who pays for their food? Teaches them English? Provides them healthcare?

I totally agree cages are wrong and separating families of asylum seekers is wrong (and likely illegal), but what do we actually do here to help both the asylum seeker and the people here already in need?
You could start by not criminalizing everyone who is crossing the border which is causing the separations in the first place. You can do what they were doing before the Trump administration changed their approach, which numerous officials have already admitted is an attempt to deter border crossings, however much Nielsen tries to avoid even hinting at that.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 1:07 pm
by McParadigm
B_i inching dangerously close to the “This is a necessary evil” cliff.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 1:33 pm
by B
This immigration debate is important, but I don't want this to slip by.

"I am hereby directing the Department of Defense and Pentagon to immediately begin the process necessary to establish a space force as the sixth branch of the armed forces," Trump said during a meeting of the National Space Council.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/18/preside ... ranch.html

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 1:58 pm
by McParadigm
Infest.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 2:40 pm
by wease
Has there ever been a president that tried so hard to actually divide the country?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 2:51 pm
by jwfocker
This must be a wet dream for b_i and his crusade against immigrants.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 3:11 pm
by Bi_3
McParadigm wrote:B_i inching dangerously close to the “This is a necessary evil” cliff.

The answer to "how do we address this concern" can't just be "not that". (It's 100% not chainlink cages.)