cutuphalfdead wrote:But...but that's how they do it. If they introduced a bill to defund domestic violence programs everyone who votes for it has to explain to their constituents why they don't want to help battered women. But if you put it in a bigger package that does lots of other things lawmakers can then say "I voted to help reign in government spending, sure there were things in it I didn't like but overall it'll get us back on track towards fiscal solvency". In the meantime, battered women are (even more) fucked.
Kinda like when democrats pass bloated spending bills and create easily corruptible new agencies under the guise of "the children" or whatever, so that when people get sick of the bullshit and cut those useless programs, they can cry about the mean old republicans wanting their kids to starve.
Domestic violence has decreased 64% since the Violence Against Women Act. But yeah, that's just bloat.
So has every other violent crime rate.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 12:51 am
by B
BurtReynolds wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:But...but that's how they do it. If they introduced a bill to defund domestic violence programs everyone who votes for it has to explain to their constituents why they don't want to help battered women. But if you put it in a bigger package that does lots of other things lawmakers can then say "I voted to help reign in government spending, sure there were things in it I didn't like but overall it'll get us back on track towards fiscal solvency". In the meantime, battered women are (even more) fucked.
Kinda like when democrats pass bloated spending bills and create easily corruptible new agencies under the guise of "the children" or whatever, so that when people get sick of the bullshit and cut those useless programs, they can cry about the mean old republicans wanting their kids to starve.
Domestic violence has decreased 64% since the Violence Against Women Act. But yeah, that's just bloat.
So has every other violent crime rate.
I'd like to see a graph with rates of all crime categories since the passage of the VAMA.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 12:54 am
by BurtReynolds
B wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:But...but that's how they do it. If they introduced a bill to defund domestic violence programs everyone who votes for it has to explain to their constituents why they don't want to help battered women. But if you put it in a bigger package that does lots of other things lawmakers can then say "I voted to help reign in government spending, sure there were things in it I didn't like but overall it'll get us back on track towards fiscal solvency". In the meantime, battered women are (even more) fucked.
Kinda like when democrats pass bloated spending bills and create easily corruptible new agencies under the guise of "the children" or whatever, so that when people get sick of the bullshit and cut those useless programs, they can cry about the mean old republicans wanting their kids to starve.
Domestic violence has decreased 64% since the Violence Against Women Act. But yeah, that's just bloat.
So has every other violent crime rate.
I'd like to see a graph with rates of all crime categories since the passage of the VAMA.
Yeah, uh, maybe the good usernames were all taken.
Still.
i'll be real: i don't really understand what point is being made here
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 12:57 am
by B
BurtReynolds wrote:
B wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:But...but that's how they do it. If they introduced a bill to defund domestic violence programs everyone who votes for it has to explain to their constituents why they don't want to help battered women. But if you put it in a bigger package that does lots of other things lawmakers can then say "I voted to help reign in government spending, sure there were things in it I didn't like but overall it'll get us back on track towards fiscal solvency". In the meantime, battered women are (even more) fucked.
Kinda like when democrats pass bloated spending bills and create easily corruptible new agencies under the guise of "the children" or whatever, so that when people get sick of the bullshit and cut those useless programs, they can cry about the mean old republicans wanting their kids to starve.
Domestic violence has decreased 64% since the Violence Against Women Act. But yeah, that's just bloat.
So has every other violent crime rate.
I'd like to see a graph with rates of all crime categories since the passage of the VAMA.
C'mon! That's no way to present data meant to sway someone to your point of view!
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 12:58 am
by BurtReynolds
B wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
B wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:But...but that's how they do it. If they introduced a bill to defund domestic violence programs everyone who votes for it has to explain to their constituents why they don't want to help battered women. But if you put it in a bigger package that does lots of other things lawmakers can then say "I voted to help reign in government spending, sure there were things in it I didn't like but overall it'll get us back on track towards fiscal solvency". In the meantime, battered women are (even more) fucked.
Kinda like when democrats pass bloated spending bills and create easily corruptible new agencies under the guise of "the children" or whatever, so that when people get sick of the bullshit and cut those useless programs, they can cry about the mean old republicans wanting their kids to starve.
Domestic violence has decreased 64% since the Violence Against Women Act. But yeah, that's just bloat.
So has every other violent crime rate.
I'd like to see a graph with rates of all crime categories since the passage of the VAMA.
C'mon! That's no way to present data meant to sway someone to your point of view!
I usually just pick one that best backs up my argument and ignore the rest.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 1:07 am
by B
BurtReynolds wrote:
B wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
B wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:But...but that's how they do it. If they introduced a bill to defund domestic violence programs everyone who votes for it has to explain to their constituents why they don't want to help battered women. But if you put it in a bigger package that does lots of other things lawmakers can then say "I voted to help reign in government spending, sure there were things in it I didn't like but overall it'll get us back on track towards fiscal solvency". In the meantime, battered women are (even more) fucked.
Kinda like when democrats pass bloated spending bills and create easily corruptible new agencies under the guise of "the children" or whatever, so that when people get sick of the bullshit and cut those useless programs, they can cry about the mean old republicans wanting their kids to starve.
Domestic violence has decreased 64% since the Violence Against Women Act. But yeah, that's just bloat.
So has every other violent crime rate.
I'd like to see a graph with rates of all crime categories since the passage of the VAWA.
C'mon! That's no way to present data meant to sway someone to your point of view!
I usually just pick one that best backs up my argument and ignore the rest.
They do all seem to prove that all crime has dropped significantly since 1994. So, y'know, the VAWA was more effective than you thought.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 1:12 am
by BurtReynolds
B wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
B wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
B wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:But...but that's how they do it. If they introduced a bill to defund domestic violence programs everyone who votes for it has to explain to their constituents why they don't want to help battered women. But if you put it in a bigger package that does lots of other things lawmakers can then say "I voted to help reign in government spending, sure there were things in it I didn't like but overall it'll get us back on track towards fiscal solvency". In the meantime, battered women are (even more) fucked.
Kinda like when democrats pass bloated spending bills and create easily corruptible new agencies under the guise of "the children" or whatever, so that when people get sick of the bullshit and cut those useless programs, they can cry about the mean old republicans wanting their kids to starve.
Domestic violence has decreased 64% since the Violence Against Women Act. But yeah, that's just bloat.
So has every other violent crime rate.
I'd like to see a graph with rates of all crime categories since the passage of the VAWA.
C'mon! That's no way to present data meant to sway someone to your point of view!
I usually just pick one that best backs up my argument and ignore the rest.
They do all seem to prove that all crime has dropped significantly since 1994. So, y'know, the VAWA was more effective than you thought.
you win this time, statist oppressors!
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 1:28 am
by B
Oh my god, Kelly Ann Conway. What brand of demon is she?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 1:35 am
by dimejinky99
So is the national day of patriotic devotion a new public holiday for you guys?
You all have to go out and sing songs in front of portraits of your glorious leader?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 1:49 am
by McParadigm
The new U.S. administration of President Donald Trump vowed on Monday that the United States would prevent China from taking over territory in international waters in the South China Sea, something Chinese state media has warned would require Washington to "wage war."
why you would talk trash about this on the same day you reopen the entire Pacific to trade negotiations is beyond me. Half the reason for the TPP was because China's trade deal offers were going to allow them to dominate the fastest developing economies.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 1:58 am
by McParadigm
This fantasy that America can have trade deals where we get incredible prices on consumerism goodies and resources AND get to sell our own high end goods without tax or tariff AND all the new jobs go to Americans is baffling to me.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 2:01 am
by BurtReynolds
maybe this way we'll win the race to the bottom.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 2:01 am
by wease
Trump is the ONLY one that can make it happen.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 2:38 am
by ---
McParadigm wrote:This fantasy that America can have trade deals where we get incredible prices on consumerism goodies and resources AND get to sell our own high end goods without tax or tariff AND all the new jobs go to Americans is baffling to me.
it's not just you, bub
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 2:59 am
by Strat
BurtReynolds wrote:
B wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:But...but that's how they do it. If they introduced a bill to defund domestic violence programs everyone who votes for it has to explain to their constituents why they don't want to help battered women. But if you put it in a bigger package that does lots of other things lawmakers can then say "I voted to help reign in government spending, sure there were things in it I didn't like but overall it'll get us back on track towards fiscal solvency". In the meantime, battered women are (even more) fucked.
Kinda like when democrats pass bloated spending bills and create easily corruptible new agencies under the guise of "the children" or whatever, so that when people get sick of the bullshit and cut those useless programs, they can cry about the mean old republicans wanting their kids to starve.
Domestic violence has decreased 64% since the Violence Against Women Act. But yeah, that's just bloat.
So has every other violent crime rate.
I'd like to see a graph with rates of all crime categories since the passage of the VAMA.
I thought we were living in carnage though i feel cheated
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue January 24, 2017 3:17 am
by BurtReynolds
Strat wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
B wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:But...but that's how they do it. If they introduced a bill to defund domestic violence programs everyone who votes for it has to explain to their constituents why they don't want to help battered women. But if you put it in a bigger package that does lots of other things lawmakers can then say "I voted to help reign in government spending, sure there were things in it I didn't like but overall it'll get us back on track towards fiscal solvency". In the meantime, battered women are (even more) fucked.
Kinda like when democrats pass bloated spending bills and create easily corruptible new agencies under the guise of "the children" or whatever, so that when people get sick of the bullshit and cut those useless programs, they can cry about the mean old republicans wanting their kids to starve.
Domestic violence has decreased 64% since the Violence Against Women Act. But yeah, that's just bloat.
So has every other violent crime rate.
I'd like to see a graph with rates of all crime categories since the passage of the VAMA.
i feel cheated