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Re: The War on Terror /Central Asia/Mid East/Africa thread
Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 7:22 pm
by Ms Harmless
dimejinky99 wrote:simple schoolboy wrote:
Where… Did that guy buy a map and history book?
Narnia??
does he think South Asian people pushed white Brits to the extreme margins of a specific area and started to control their autonomy after the war? weird
Re: Israel & Palestine
Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 8:48 pm
by B
It's genocide, but we'd stop if the Palestinians would just get over it and stop whining.

Re: Israel & Palestine
Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 6:12 am
by dimejinky99
Re: Israel & Palestine
Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 8:08 am
by dimejinky99
Fucking deranged. Evil.
Re: Israel & Palestine
Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 2:53 pm
by spike
There’ve been news helicopters over our neighborhood all morning. Turns out it’s this a couple blocks away:
Re: Israel & Palestine
Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 3:01 pm
by spike
Loud ass news choppers are finally gone. Hopefully things went down peacefully over there.
Re: Israel & Palestine
Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 3:47 pm
by spike
Loud ass choppers are back. Pigs must’ve taken their union break early.
Re: Israel & Palestine
Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 4:16 pm
by BurtReynolds
Thoughts and prayers for you and your family stuck in that warzone.
Re: Israel & Palestine
Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 4:52 pm
by Bi_3
BurtReynolds wrote:Thoughts and prayers for you and your family stuck in that warzone.
You've heard of the "longhouse leftist", Spike is the "lakehouse leftist"
I kid, I kid
Re: Israel & Palestine
Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 4:54 pm
by McParadigm
Conservatives are getting better at humor, and the left is terrified
Re: Israel & Palestine
Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 4:57 pm
by McParadigm
I mean, obviously not in this thread. But I’m sure it’s happening somewhere.
Re: Israel & Palestine
Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 7:02 pm
by BurtReynolds
I meant Chicago in general.
Re: Israel & Palestine
Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 9:26 pm
by spike
time to get outta dodge
Re: Israel & Palestine
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 11:33 am
by dimejinky99
Arrest warrant issued for Netenyahu
Re: Israel & Palestine
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 12:50 pm
by dimejinky99
‘The International Criminal Court has just issued arrest warrants for Benjamin Netanyahu and Defence Minister Yoav Gallant, and Hamas leaders.
Israel's leadership is charged with
- Starvation
- Causing great suffering
- Wilful killing / murder
- Directing attacks against a civilian population
- Crimes against humanity of extermination and murder
- Persecution and other humane acts’
Re: Israel & Palestine
Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 3:37 pm
by simple schoolboy
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/isra ... eding-gaza
I didn't find this compelling at all. The more apt comparison isn't to Afghanistan COIN or the Tribal Awakening, it's to Mosul or other urban conflicts with ISIS. This is what they went in claiming the objective was.
If a 1km buffer zone and controlling border crossings was the objective, there isn't a very compelling reason to go into Rafah. 10, 20K more civilian casualties to what, degrade Hamas from 70% to 80% (made up numbers)? Could've gotten that buffer zone* done much faster than whatever it is they are attempting to accomplish. It's not clear that they know what their desired end state is or if it's achievable. "It's too expensive to keep Reservists activated" is not a valid consideration for what is allegedly an existential risk.
* Arbitrary 1km buffer zone could also be established within Israeli territory, at least away from the Egypt border
Re: Israel & Palestine
Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 4:17 pm
by Bi_3
simple schoolboy wrote:https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/isra ... eding-gaza
I didn't find this compelling at all. The more apt comparison isn't to Afghanistan COIN or the Tribal Awakening, it's to Mosul or other urban conflicts with ISIS. This is what they went in claiming the objective was.
If a 1km buffer zone and controlling border crossings was the objective, there isn't a very compelling reason to go into Rafah. 10, 20K more civilian casualties to what, degrade Hamas from 70% to 80% (made up numbers)? Could've gotten that buffer zone* done much faster than whatever it is they are attempting to accomplish. It's not clear that they know what their desired end state is or if it's achievable. "It's too expensive to keep Reservists activated" is not a valid consideration for what is allegedly an existential risk.
* Arbitrary 1km buffer zone could also be established within Israeli territory, at least away from the Egypt border
I don't follow here. What would a buffer zone on the Israeli side of the border fence accomplish vs. on the Gazan side?
Re: Israel & Palestine
Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 4:26 pm
by simple schoolboy
Bi_3 wrote:simple schoolboy wrote:https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/isra ... eding-gaza
I didn't find this compelling at all. The more apt comparison isn't to Afghanistan COIN or the Tribal Awakening, it's to Mosul or other urban conflicts with ISIS. This is what they went in claiming the objective was.
If a 1km buffer zone and controlling border crossings was the objective, there isn't a very compelling reason to go into Rafah. 10, 20K more civilian casualties to what, degrade Hamas from 70% to 80% (made up numbers)? Could've gotten that buffer zone* done much faster than whatever it is they are attempting to accomplish. It's not clear that they know what their desired end state is or if it's achievable. "It's too expensive to keep Reservists activated" is not a valid consideration for what is allegedly an existential risk.
* Arbitrary 1km buffer zone could also be established within Israeli territory, at least away from the Egypt border
I don't follow here. What would a buffer zone on the Israeli side of the border fence accomplish vs. on the Gazan side?
What does it accomplish on the Gaza side? What are they going for beyond an Israeli controlled defensible open space? Would've been faster and cheaper to establish that in an already mostly clear area. Probably would need to be more like 5 km if the objective is to reduce the risk of anti tank guided missile attacks.
Re: Israel & Palestine
Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 4:54 pm
by Bi_3
simple schoolboy wrote:Bi_3 wrote:simple schoolboy wrote:https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/isra ... eding-gaza
I didn't find this compelling at all. The more apt comparison isn't to Afghanistan COIN or the Tribal Awakening, it's to Mosul or other urban conflicts with ISIS. This is what they went in claiming the objective was.
If a 1km buffer zone and controlling border crossings was the objective, there isn't a very compelling reason to go into Rafah. 10, 20K more civilian casualties to what, degrade Hamas from 70% to 80% (made up numbers)? Could've gotten that buffer zone* done much faster than whatever it is they are attempting to accomplish. It's not clear that they know what their desired end state is or if it's achievable. "It's too expensive to keep Reservists activated" is not a valid consideration for what is allegedly an existential risk.
* Arbitrary 1km buffer zone could also be established within Israeli territory, at least away from the Egypt border
I don't follow here. What would a buffer zone on the Israeli side of the border fence accomplish vs. on the Gazan side?
What does it accomplish on the Gaza side? What are they going for beyond an Israeli controlled defensible open space? Would've been faster and cheaper to establish that in an already mostly clear area. Probably would need to be more like 5 km if the objective is to reduce the risk of anti tank guided missile attacks.
Dunno man. Generally you don’t put the moat inside the castle
Re: Israel & Palestine
Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 5:13 pm
by McParadigm
Historically speaking, the people with castles were the worst.