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Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue July 12, 2016 2:44 pm
by Rob
Electromatic wrote:Maybe "Black Lives Matter" should re brand itself as "Black Lives Matter Too" and then more people might understand where they were originally coming from in frustration.
One thing I can't understand is how some people don't know that "too" is implied.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue July 12, 2016 2:56 pm
by Bi_3
Rob wrote:Electromatic wrote:Maybe "Black Lives Matter" should re brand itself as "Black Lives Matter Too" and then more people might understand where they were originally coming from in frustration.
One thing I can't understand is how some people don't know that "too" is implied.
Some of the movements leadership was on Fox News recently. You may want to listen to what they actually say.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue July 12, 2016 3:40 pm
by Norah
Electromatic wrote:Maybe "Black Lives Matter" should re brand itself as "Black Lives Matter Too" and then more people might understand where they were originally coming from in frustration.
Or people just shouldn't be so fucking dense not to get that from the start.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue July 12, 2016 4:13 pm
by Strat
Strat's Friend wrote:so my friend J (who you've met) is an EMT in Mpls, they were parked at park in north on Sunday morning and a squad car rolled up beside them and motioned for them to lower their window
1 cop in the car yells 'you're worse than cops, you guys are next" and spit on their ambulance
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue July 12, 2016 4:28 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Strat wrote:Strat's Friend wrote:so my friend J (who you've met) is an EMT in Mpls, they were parked at park in north on Sunday morning and a squad car rolled up beside them and motioned for them to lower their window
1 cop in the car yells 'you're worse than cops, you guys are next" and spit on their ambulance
The thing that most people forget here is that 85% of the human population is comprised of dumbasses. So basically you can assume that 85% of any workforce are dumbasses. That percentage does not exclude law enforcement, government or healthcare just as it does not exclude the general public.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue July 12, 2016 4:29 pm
by Kaius
Why doesn't that story make any sense?
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue July 12, 2016 4:29 pm
by Strat
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Strat wrote:Strat's Friend wrote:so my friend J (who you've met) is an EMT in Mpls, they were parked at park in north on Sunday morning and a squad car rolled up beside them and motioned for them to lower their window
1 cop in the car yells 'you're worse than cops, you guys are next" and spit on their ambulance
The thing that most people forget here is that 85% of the human population is comprised of dumbasses. So basically you can assume that 85% of any workforce are dumbasses. That percentage does not exclude law enforcement, government or healthcare just as it does not exclude the general public.
The general sentiment of this encounter and exchange was that people are just losing their minds. Its really depressing.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue July 12, 2016 4:30 pm
by Strat
Kaius wrote:Why doesn't that story make any sense?
What would you need to feel clear on this?
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue July 12, 2016 4:30 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
My figures of 85% are accurate, btw. I did an extensive study.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue July 12, 2016 4:33 pm
by Strat
E.H. Ruddock wrote:My figures of 85% are accurate, btw. I did an extensive study.
I believe in Ruddo
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue July 12, 2016 4:42 pm
by Kaius
Strat wrote:Kaius wrote:Why doesn't that story make any sense?
What would you need to feel clear on this?
Is the cop implying that emt's are more racist than cops, admitting that cops are racist, and then threatening to shoot the emt's?
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue July 12, 2016 4:44 pm
by Strat
Kaius wrote:Strat wrote:Kaius wrote:Why doesn't that story make any sense?
What would you need to feel clear on this?
Is the cop implying that emt's are more racist than cops, admitting that cops are racist, and then threatening to shoot the emt's?
I think its this. I dont understand it either. People are losing their goddamn minds. I swear.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Tue July 12, 2016 10:24 pm
by Jorge
Bi_3 wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/upsho ... .html?_r=0
"In officer-involved shootings in these cities, officers were more likely to fire their weapons without having first been attacked when the suspects were white."
"And in the arena of “shoot” or “don’t shoot,” Mr. Fryer found that, in tense situations, officers in Houston were about 20 percent less likely to shoot a suspect if the suspect was black."
Really, this is not surprising to anyone who understands the difference between data and anecdotes.
http://www.mtv.com/news/2903957/why-its ... shootings/
Dunno about all this
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Wed July 13, 2016 12:31 am
by pepperwhiteMFC
Bi_3 wrote:Rob wrote:Electromatic wrote:Maybe "Black Lives Matter" should re brand itself as "Black Lives Matter Too" and then more people might understand where they were originally coming from in frustration.
One thing I can't understand is how some people don't know that "too" is implied.
Some of the movements leadership was on Fox News recently. You may want to listen to what they actually say.
Did Faux News invite specific guest speakers because they knew that "some" of the movement's leadership had bias that
fit the Faux News narrative?
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Wed July 13, 2016 1:02 am
by Electromatic
Bi_3 wrote:Rob wrote:Electromatic wrote:Maybe "Black Lives Matter" should re brand itself as "Black Lives Matter Too" and then more people might understand where they were originally coming from in frustration.
One thing I can't understand is how some people don't know that "too" is implied.
Some of the movements leadership was on Fox News recently. You may want to listen to what they actually say.
It's kind of inconsequential to me what the leadership has to say. It's not really supposed to be an organization anyway. The overall point was that there are systemic unfair practices in government that are unfairly targeting a segment of the population (see Ferguson). Police have an extremely challenging and dangerous job, of course their role is to be respected. Often it isn't, often there are perpetrators in the wrong, but Philando Castille? I'm still waiting on the public story, because right now, all I can discern is that there is a dead person who was killed by a cop for doing what he was instructed to do, if that's the case, that officer needs to be in jail forever.
Black Lives Matter, is simply a slogan that comes out of the frustration of years of small indignancies and larger ones. They are frustrated about news coverage too ironically. What was it 2 years of Natallie Hollowell lost/murdered in Aruba.
It's not intended to gloss over cultural issues or say that cops lives or white lives don't matter, it's just born out of frustration, no matter what some professed leader says. People say stupid things every day, they don't speak for the group any more than Trump or Hillary speak for us as a nation.
Philando Castille should be the story... Not.... "Why are these people so angry they should fix themselves first". The man had a concealed carry permit, declared it, and then got shot for retrieving his license and registration. That's something to be upset about.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Wed July 13, 2016 1:24 am
by pepperwhiteMFC
Electromatic wrote:The man had a concealed carry permit, declared it, and then got shot for retrieving his license and registration. That's something to be upset about.
It sure is.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Wed July 13, 2016 2:11 am
by Kaius
pepperwhiteMFC wrote:Electromatic wrote:The man had a concealed carry permit, declared it, and then got shot for retrieving his license and registration. That's something to be upset about.
It sure is.
What transpired prior to the shooting is still based on the girl friend's testimony right? To be clear, we don't know what the exchange between cop and Castille was as of yet, right?
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Wed July 13, 2016 2:38 am
by pepperwhiteMFC
Kaius wrote:pepperwhiteMFC wrote:Electromatic wrote:The man had a concealed carry permit, declared it, and then got shot for retrieving his license and registration. That's something to be upset about.
It sure is.
What transpired prior to the shooting is still based on the girl friend's testimony right? To be clear, we don't know what the exchange between cop and Castille was as of yet, right?
True. And she was wearing a white feather hat at some press conference? I have no idea - but I do know that historically folks of color have had their right to bear arms infringed upon at state levels....because - "black is bad," or something.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Wed July 13, 2016 3:01 am
by Kaius
Just take all of our guns away and be done with it. It's time.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Wed July 13, 2016 3:29 am
by Strat
They were pulled over because they fit the description of a robbery that happened earlier (possibly 2 days ealier). They had a similar "square nose"
