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whatever happened to Jamiroquai?

BurtReynolds wrote:whatever happened to Jamiroquai?

lol. I fucking love Jamiroquai

@SkitchP wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:whatever happened to Jamiroquai?

lol. I fucking love Jamiroquai

I loved that one big hit for sure!

whatever happened to Paula Cole?

durdencommatyler wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:whatever happened to Jamiroquai?

lol. I fucking love Jamiroquai

I loved that one big hit for sure!

Same.

This was wonderful.

BurtReynolds wrote:whatever happened to Paula Cole?

She is probably out looking for cowboys.

I wish the New Radicals made more than the one album.

Any of you guys remember Rob Rule?

durdencommatyler wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:whatever happened to Jamiroquai?

lol. I fucking love Jamiroquai

I loved that one big hit for sure!

You probably loved his other hit (kinda) song- being Canned Heat- the song that Napoleon Dynamite is dancing to at the end.

I also really like Black Capricorn Day and Deeper Underground (from the Godzilla 98 soundtrack). He also had a song called "Feels Just Like It Should" that I think was on an ATT commercial about 5 years ago.

Kevin Davis wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:[I'm not sure it's fair to dismiss what Miley does as mere "teenage rebellion" unless we're also prepared to dismiss what Madonna did as that, or what the entire punk rock movement did as that.

It's just the vibe I get, LV -- the deepest "expression of autonomy" evident to me in this music is that of a young girl who spent her actual teen years playing a squeaky-clean character on a kids' show and is now disproportionately impressed by how people respond to sexuality and curse words. Clearly she's not taking herself too seriously and that's a good thing. But musically it ranges from "nothing special" to "idiotic," and if repurposing phallic objects as lewd stage props is somehow significant or "political" then my friends from 8th grade were way, way ahead of their time.

Here's the thing though: things people do in real life don't always reflect what is considered acceptable in the culture. I'm not very familiar with Madonna's catalog, but her (in)famous "Like a Virgin" performance at the 1984 VMAs is, in my estimation, a seminal pop culture moment. To this day, it's still hilarious, audacious, and powerful. I think it's important to normalize sexuality - especially female sexuality - in our often-still-puritanical society, and every time someone like Elvis gyrates or someone like Madonna writhes across a stage or someone like Miley uses a prop phallus on national TV, the dial moves just a little bit forward. I think that's great. I think that's important.

For the record, Miley's efforts in this area go further than just televised antics - she's done a lot of great work for LGBT youth and feminist causes, and not just in terms of activism and charity, but in terms of using her cultural influence to normalize and promote acceptance and understanding. And I think her art and persona incorporate and express what she believes in. Which, again, I think is great.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:[I'm not sure it's fair to dismiss what Miley does as mere "teenage rebellion" unless we're also prepared to dismiss what Madonna did as that, or what the entire punk rock movement did as that.

It's just the vibe I get, LV -- the deepest "expression of autonomy" evident to me in this music is that of a young girl who spent her actual teen years playing a squeaky-clean character on a kids' show and is now disproportionately impressed by how people respond to sexuality and curse words. Clearly she's not taking herself too seriously and that's a good thing. But musically it ranges from "nothing special" to "idiotic," and if repurposing phallic objects as lewd stage props is somehow significant or "political" then my friends from 8th grade were way, way ahead of their time.

Here's the thing though: things people do in real life don't always reflect what is considered acceptable in the culture. I'm not very familiar with Madonna's catalog, but her (in)famous "Like a Virgin" performance at the 1984 VMAs is, in my estimation, a seminal pop culture moment. To this day, it's still hilarious, audacious, and powerful. I think it's important to normalize sexuality - especially female sexuality - in our often-still-puritanical society, and every time someone like Elvis gyrates or someone like Madonna writhes across a stage or someone like Miley uses a prop phallus on national TV, the dial moves just a little bit forward. I think that's great. I think that's important.

For the record, Miley's efforts in this area go further than just televised antics - she's done a lot of great work for LGBT youth and feminist causes, and not just in terms of activism and charity, but in terms of using her cultural influence to normalize and promote acceptance and understanding. And I think her art and persona incorporate and express what she believes in. Which, again, I think is great.

Women need to learn to be pumped for 90 minutes straight, amirite??

whatever happened to Baha Men?

Strat wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:[I'm not sure it's fair to dismiss what Miley does as mere "teenage rebellion" unless we're also prepared to dismiss what Madonna did as that, or what the entire punk rock movement did as that.

It's just the vibe I get, LV -- the deepest "expression of autonomy" evident to me in this music is that of a young girl who spent her actual teen years playing a squeaky-clean character on a kids' show and is now disproportionately impressed by how people respond to sexuality and curse words. Clearly she's not taking herself too seriously and that's a good thing. But musically it ranges from "nothing special" to "idiotic," and if repurposing phallic objects as lewd stage props is somehow significant or "political" then my friends from 8th grade were way, way ahead of their time.

Here's the thing though: things people do in real life don't always reflect what is considered acceptable in the culture. I'm not very familiar with Madonna's catalog, but her (in)famous "Like a Virgin" performance at the 1984 VMAs is, in my estimation, a seminal pop culture moment. To this day, it's still hilarious, audacious, and powerful. I think it's important to normalize sexuality - especially female sexuality - in our often-still-puritanical society, and every time someone like Elvis gyrates or someone like Madonna writhes across a stage or someone like Miley uses a prop phallus on national TV, the dial moves just a little bit forward. I think that's great. I think that's important.

For the record, Miley's efforts in this area go further than just televised antics - she's done a lot of great work for LGBT youth and feminist causes, and not just in terms of activism and charity, but in terms of using her cultural influence to normalize and promote acceptance and understanding. And I think her art and persona incorporate and express what she believes in. Which, again, I think is great.

Women need to learn to be pumped for 90 minutes straight, amirite??

IT WAS 80

I am old because ultimately when it comes down to antics and publicity, if you dont have the songs to back it up then gtfo. That being said, I just dont like the songs. Everything sounds the fucking same to me so maybe that is the difference between Madonna and everyone else out these days.

I totally agree with what LV is saying about Miley's persona and why what she's doing is actually important and fascinating and culturally relevant.

But, I also agree with Strat that the music is terrible. So I have no problem with Miley being Miley, in fact, I encourage it. But I'm still not going to listen to her music.

BurtReynolds wrote:whatever happened to Baha Men?

It should be Baha People.

durdencommatyler wrote:I totally agree with what LV is saying about Miley's persona and why what she's doing is actually important and fascinating and culturally relevant.

But, I also agree with Strat that the music is terrible. So I have no problem with Miley being Miley, in fact, I encourage it. But I'm still not going to listen to her music.

I agree with L_V too on Miley. Except for I really don't like most of her music either. Really, The Climb and Party In The USA, but those are pre-all growed up.

@SkitchP wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I totally agree with what LV is saying about Miley's persona and why what she's doing is actually important and fascinating and culturally relevant.

But, I also agree with Strat that the music is terrible. So I have no problem with Miley being Miley, in fact, I encourage it. But I'm still not going to listen to her music.

I agree with L_V too on Miley. Except for I really don't like most of her music either. Really, The Climb and Party In The USA, but those are pre-all growed up.

I hate how much I like Party in the USA. But, if I'm honest.... yeah, I dig that one. But GOD I hate that chorus.

How is it fascinating or culturally relevant? Its been done repeatedly for decades. No one cares. It doesn't move any needles. She's just the latest in a long line of clones.

Not to mention she takes the idea of empowerment and uses that power to create something truly ugly and selfish. There isn't anything noble about her.

I was pretty excited we were all going to be talking about Jamiroquai, but I fear that moment has passed.

@SkitchP wrote:I was pretty excited we were all going to be talking about Jamiroquai, but I fear that moment has passed.

Thanks, LV. You're alright in my book.


I never understood why people were so blown away by that damn moving floor.