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Re: New England Patriots

Posted: Thu March 16, 2017 3:06 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
I thought they already got cooks without having to trade Butler?

Re: New England Patriots

Posted: Thu March 16, 2017 3:19 pm
by Simple Torture
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I thought they already got cooks without having to trade Butler?
They did. When that deal was done, though, there were sources that said the teams left a Butler trade open for discussion.

Re: New England Patriots

Posted: Thu March 16, 2017 4:12 pm
by numbers
Simple Torture wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I thought they already got cooks without having to trade Butler?
They did. When that deal was done, though, there were sources that said the teams left a Butler trade open for discussion.
Yeah, Cooks had to be traded before Monday so NO wouldnt be responsible for his roster bonus, and Butler has still yet to sign his RFA tender and cant be traded. Word is the Pats and Saints agreed to the Cooks trade with the understanding that if they can work out a deal with Butler, the Pats will trade him to NO for their own 1st rounder that they just sent to NO, rather than NO having to give up their first rounder.

Re: New England Patriots

Posted: Thu March 16, 2017 8:12 pm
by Simple Torture
numbers wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I thought they already got cooks without having to trade Butler?
They did. When that deal was done, though, there were sources that said the teams left a Butler trade open for discussion.
Yeah, Cooks had to be traded before Monday so NO wouldnt be responsible for his roster bonus, and Butler has still yet to sign his RFA tender and cant be traded. Word is the Pats and Saints agreed to the Cooks trade with the understanding that if they can work out a deal with Butler, the Pats will trade him to NO for their own 1st rounder that they just sent to NO, rather than NO having to give up their first rounder.
I'm like 99% sure that you have to give up your own draft pick when working through RFA deals, i.e. you can't use a pick you've received from another team to complete the transaction.

Re: New England Patriots

Posted: Thu March 16, 2017 10:29 pm
by Self
Simple Torture wrote:
numbers wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I thought they already got cooks without having to trade Butler?
They did. When that deal was done, though, there were sources that said the teams left a Butler trade open for discussion.
Yeah, Cooks had to be traded before Monday so NO wouldnt be responsible for his roster bonus, and Butler has still yet to sign his RFA tender and cant be traded. Word is the Pats and Saints agreed to the Cooks trade with the understanding that if they can work out a deal with Butler, the Pats will trade him to NO for their own 1st rounder that they just sent to NO, rather than NO having to give up their first rounder.
I'm like 99% sure that you have to give up your own draft pick when working through RFA deals, i.e. you can't use a pick you've received from another team to complete the transaction.
This is true and probably why Butler has at least some say. To make the deal happen, he probably has to sign his tender and work out a deal with NO.

Re: New England Patriots

Posted: Thu March 16, 2017 10:30 pm
by doug rr
go broncos

Re: New England Patriots

Posted: Thu March 16, 2017 10:32 pm
by Self
Doug

Re: New England Patriots

Posted: Thu March 16, 2017 10:34 pm
by doug rr
hey

Re: New England Patriots

Posted: Thu March 16, 2017 11:06 pm
by Self
I hope you enjoy the beers you get to have this weekend.

Re: New England Patriots

Posted: Thu March 16, 2017 11:19 pm
by doug rr
Self wrote:I hope you enjoy the beers you get to have this weekend.
i'll probably have a couple...i've got 2 bottles of jameson packed in my golf bag as well. just found out we're invited to a pig roast on monday night

Re: New England Patriots

Posted: Thu March 16, 2017 11:33 pm
by Self
I haven't been to a pig roast in a long time.

Re: New England Patriots

Posted: Thu March 16, 2017 11:40 pm
by doug rr
Self wrote:I haven't been to a pig roast in a long time.
come out on monday..I'll save you a cheek

Re: New England Patriots

Posted: Fri March 17, 2017 2:33 pm
by numbers
Self wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
numbers wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I thought they already got cooks without having to trade Butler?
They did. When that deal was done, though, there were sources that said the teams left a Butler trade open for discussion.
Yeah, Cooks had to be traded before Monday so NO wouldnt be responsible for his roster bonus, and Butler has still yet to sign his RFA tender and cant be traded. Word is the Pats and Saints agreed to the Cooks trade with the understanding that if they can work out a deal with Butler, the Pats will trade him to NO for their own 1st rounder that they just sent to NO, rather than NO having to give up their first rounder.
I'm like 99% sure that you have to give up your own draft pick when working through RFA deals, i.e. you can't use a pick you've received from another team to complete the transaction.
This is true and probably why Butler has at least some say. To make the deal happen, he probably has to sign his tender and work out a deal with NO.
You do have to give up your own pick, but if he signs the tender the Pats can trade him for whatever they want.

Re: New England Patriots

Posted: Fri March 17, 2017 2:49 pm
by Self
numbers wrote:
Self wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
numbers wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I thought they already got cooks without having to trade Butler?
They did. When that deal was done, though, there were sources that said the teams left a Butler trade open for discussion.
Yeah, Cooks had to be traded before Monday so NO wouldnt be responsible for his roster bonus, and Butler has still yet to sign his RFA tender and cant be traded. Word is the Pats and Saints agreed to the Cooks trade with the understanding that if they can work out a deal with Butler, the Pats will trade him to NO for their own 1st rounder that they just sent to NO, rather than NO having to give up their first rounder.
I'm like 99% sure that you have to give up your own draft pick when working through RFA deals, i.e. you can't use a pick you've received from another team to complete the transaction.
This is true and probably why Butler has at least some say. To make the deal happen, he probably has to sign his tender and work out a deal with NO.
You do have to give up your own pick, but if he signs the tender the Pats can trade him for whatever they want.
That's what I said, Mick.

Re: New England Patriots

Posted: Fri March 17, 2017 3:38 pm
by numbers
Self wrote:
numbers wrote:
Self wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
numbers wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I thought they already got cooks without having to trade Butler?
They did. When that deal was done, though, there were sources that said the teams left a Butler trade open for discussion.
Yeah, Cooks had to be traded before Monday so NO wouldnt be responsible for his roster bonus, and Butler has still yet to sign his RFA tender and cant be traded. Word is the Pats and Saints agreed to the Cooks trade with the understanding that if they can work out a deal with Butler, the Pats will trade him to NO for their own 1st rounder that they just sent to NO, rather than NO having to give up their first rounder.
I'm like 99% sure that you have to give up your own draft pick when working through RFA deals, i.e. you can't use a pick you've received from another team to complete the transaction.
This is true and probably why Butler has at least some say. To make the deal happen, he probably has to sign his tender and work out a deal with NO.
You do have to give up your own pick, but if he signs the tender the Pats can trade him for whatever they want.
That's what I said, Mick.
My bad, I didnt see your post.

Re: New England Patriots

Posted: Fri March 17, 2017 3:43 pm
by Self
You have me foe'd, don't you?

Re: New England Patriots

Posted: Fri March 17, 2017 3:47 pm
by numbers
Foeing is for weaklings, I'm just incompetent.

Re: New England Patriots

Posted: Sat March 18, 2017 1:40 am
by Coach
Never foe. Censorship!

Re: New England Patriots

Posted: Wed April 19, 2017 8:50 pm
by Green Habit

Re: New England Patriots

Posted: Wed April 19, 2017 8:55 pm
by doug rr
I wonder how many BRONCOS will show up next year