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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu February 02, 2017 12:45 am
by Strat
and Bad hombres
http://staging.hosted.ap.org/dynamic/st ... 1-18-21-24
The phone call between the leaders was intended to patch things up between the new president and his ally. The two have had a series of public spats over Trump's determination to have Mexico pay for the planned border wall, something Mexico steadfastly refuses to agree to.
"You have a bunch of bad hombres down there," Trump told Pena Nieto, according to the excerpt given to AP. "You aren't doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our military isn't, so I just might send them down to take care of it."*
*potentially not true
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu February 02, 2017 1:09 am
by McParadigm
https://www.thenation.com/article/leake ... imination/
A leaked copy of a draft executive order titled “Establishing a Government-Wide Initiative to Respect Religious Freedom,” obtained by The Investigative Fund and The Nation, reveals sweeping plans by the Trump administration to legalize discrimination.
The four-page draft order, a copy of which is currently circulating among federal staff and advocacy organizations, construes religious organizations so broadly that it covers “any organization, including closely held for-profit corporations,” and protects “religious freedom” in every walk of life: “when providing social services, education, or healthcare; earning a living, seeking a job, or employing others; receiving government grants or contracts; or otherwise participating in the marketplace, the public square, or interfacing with Federal, State or local governments.”
The draft order seeks to create wholesale exemptions for people and organizations who claim religious or moral objections to same-sex marriage, premarital sex, abortion, and trans identity, and it seeks to curtail women’s access to contraception and abortion through the Affordable Care Act. The White House did not respond to requests for comment, but when asked Monday about whether a religious freedom executive order was in the works, White House spokesman Sean Spicer told reporters, “I’m not getting ahead of the executive orders that we may or may not issue. There is a lot of executive orders, a lot of things that the president has talked about and will continue to fulfill, but we have nothing on that front now.”
Language in the draft document specifically protects the tax-exempt status of any organization that “believes, speaks, or acts (or declines to act) in accordance with the belief that marriage is or should be recognized as the union of one man and one woman, sexual relations are properly reserved for such a marriage, male and female and their equivalents refer to an individual’s immutable biological sex as objectively determined by anatomy, physiology, or genetics at or before birth, and that human life begins at conception and merits protection at all stages of life.”
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu February 02, 2017 1:11 am
by digster
Strat wrote:and Bad hombres
http://staging.hosted.ap.org/dynamic/st ... 1-18-21-24
The phone call between the leaders was intended to patch things up between the new president and his ally. The two have had a series of public spats over Trump's determination to have Mexico pay for the planned border wall, something Mexico steadfastly refuses to agree to.
"You have a bunch of bad hombres down there," Trump told Pena Nieto, according to the excerpt given to AP. "You aren't doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our military isn't, so I just might send them down to take care of it."*
*potentially not true
That may not be true. The funny thing about it is that it totally could be true.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu February 02, 2017 1:18 am
by McParadigm
It should have been one of the most congenial calls for the new commander in chief — a conversation with the leader of Australia, one of America’s staunchest allies, at the end of a triumphant week.
Instead, President Trump blasted Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull over a refugee agreement and boasted about the magnitude of his electoral college win, according to senior U.S. officials briefed on the Saturday exchange. Then, 25 minutes into what was expected to be an hour-long call, Trump abruptly ended it.
At one point Trump informed Turnbull that he had spoken with four other world leaders that day — including Russian President Vladimir Putin — and that “This was the worst call by far.”
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu February 02, 2017 1:21 am
by Strat
McParadigm wrote:https://www.thenation.com/article/leake ... imination/
A leaked copy of a draft executive order titled “Establishing a Government-Wide Initiative to Respect Religious Freedom,” obtained by The Investigative Fund and The Nation, reveals sweeping plans by the Trump administration to legalize discrimination.
The four-page draft order, a copy of which is currently circulating among federal staff and advocacy organizations, construes religious organizations so broadly that it covers “any organization, including closely held for-profit corporations,” and protects “religious freedom” in every walk of life: “when providing social services, education, or healthcare; earning a living, seeking a job, or employing others; receiving government grants or contracts; or otherwise participating in the marketplace, the public square, or interfacing with Federal, State or local governments.”
The draft order seeks to create wholesale exemptions for people and organizations who claim religious or moral objections to same-sex marriage, premarital sex, abortion, and trans identity, and it seeks to curtail women’s access to contraception and abortion through the Affordable Care Act. The White House did not respond to requests for comment, but when asked Monday about whether a religious freedom executive order was in the works, White House spokesman Sean Spicer told reporters, “I’m not getting ahead of the executive orders that we may or may not issue. There is a lot of executive orders, a lot of things that the president has talked about and will continue to fulfill, but we have nothing on that front now.”
Language in the draft document specifically protects the tax-exempt status of any organization that “believes, speaks, or acts (or declines to act) in accordance with the belief that marriage is or should be recognized as the union of one man and one woman, sexual relations are properly reserved for such a marriage, male and female and their equivalents refer to an individual’s immutable biological sex as objectively determined by anatomy, physiology, or genetics at or before birth, and that human life begins at conception and merits protection at all stages of life.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/us/p ... rkers.html
IM SO CONFUSED
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu February 02, 2017 1:25 am
by McParadigm
Strat wrote:McParadigm wrote:https://www.thenation.com/article/leake ... imination/
A leaked copy of a draft executive order titled “Establishing a Government-Wide Initiative to Respect Religious Freedom,” obtained by The Investigative Fund and The Nation, reveals sweeping plans by the Trump administration to legalize discrimination.
The four-page draft order, a copy of which is currently circulating among federal staff and advocacy organizations, construes religious organizations so broadly that it covers “any organization, including closely held for-profit corporations,” and protects “religious freedom” in every walk of life: “when providing social services, education, or healthcare; earning a living, seeking a job, or employing others; receiving government grants or contracts; or otherwise participating in the marketplace, the public square, or interfacing with Federal, State or local governments.”
The draft order seeks to create wholesale exemptions for people and organizations who claim religious or moral objections to same-sex marriage, premarital sex, abortion, and trans identity, and it seeks to curtail women’s access to contraception and abortion through the Affordable Care Act. The White House did not respond to requests for comment, but when asked Monday about whether a religious freedom executive order was in the works, White House spokesman Sean Spicer told reporters, “I’m not getting ahead of the executive orders that we may or may not issue. There is a lot of executive orders, a lot of things that the president has talked about and will continue to fulfill, but we have nothing on that front now.”
Language in the draft document specifically protects the tax-exempt status of any organization that “believes, speaks, or acts (or declines to act) in accordance with the belief that marriage is or should be recognized as the union of one man and one woman, sexual relations are properly reserved for such a marriage, male and female and their equivalents refer to an individual’s immutable biological sex as objectively determined by anatomy, physiology, or genetics at or before birth, and that human life begins at conception and merits protection at all stages of life.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/us/p ... rkers.html
IM SO CONFUSED
We will see how it plays out. It could be that the intention is to argue that they are defending religious freedom, and use the federal worker order to prove that this is in no way part of an anti-"others" philosophy.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu February 02, 2017 1:27 am
by McParadigm
Trump bots have had a concentrated campaign going all day today, around the idea that Chicago gang leaders are open to sitting down and working with Trump. Part of a surreal narrative they are writing around his ability to clean up Democrat messes.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu February 02, 2017 1:33 am
by McParadigm
Iran: on notice
Mexico: threatened
Australia: spat on
Russia: we had a really nice talk
Ukraine: "Scores of children and elderly people fled from a town in eastern Ukraine yesterday after they were caught in clashes between government troops and Russian-backed rebels."
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu February 02, 2017 1:37 am
by 96583UP
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu February 02, 2017 2:02 am
by McParadigm
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu February 02, 2017 2:04 am
by B
There's so many of these now, that I'm beginning to doubt their credibility.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu February 02, 2017 2:06 am
by 96583UP
B wrote:
There's so many of these now, that I'm beginning to doubt their credibility.
what are the some other ones?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu February 02, 2017 2:08 am
by B
96583UP wrote:B wrote:
There's so many of these now, that I'm beginning to doubt their credibility.
what are the some other ones?
There are 2 EPAs, a couple national parks, and NASA.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu February 02, 2017 2:12 am
by Bi_3
B wrote:96583UP wrote:B wrote:
There's so many of these now, that I'm beginning to doubt their credibility.
what are the some other ones?
There are 2 EPAs, a couple national parks, and NASA.
So FDA is still available?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu February 02, 2017 2:14 am
by BurtReynolds
I'm behind the NASA one
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu February 02, 2017 2:29 am
by McParadigm
Holy shit, Berkeley.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu February 02, 2017 2:33 am
by McParadigm
Christ. They burned an American flag. Thanks a lot assholes.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu February 02, 2017 2:49 am
by McParadigm
Image: Protester outlined by fire, in a black handkerchief mask and a Run DMC shirt. Idiot we should be ashamed of, or...I mean...cool guy, right?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu February 02, 2017 3:07 am
by McParadigm
McParadigm wrote:We as a nation are like 10 days of protests and some really well-constructed tire fires away from looking like the early days of the Arab Spring.
Berkeley wrote:
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu February 02, 2017 3:11 am
by BurtReynolds
America's favorite terrorist training camp.