Red Mosquito

A woman of taste:

Connecticut is fully reopening May 19th, keeping only the mask mandate for indoor public places.

https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/loc ... n/2469574/

Gov. Ned Lamont announced that all restrictions for Connecticut businesses will be phased out by May 19.

The governor said all outdoor restrictions will be lifted starting May 1. Restaurants will be allowed to serve alcohol without food and there will no longer be a table size limit.

The curfew for businesses will be pushed back to 12 a.m. starting May 1, as well, Lamont said in a news conference Monday.

All other business restrictions will be phased out starting May 19, state officials said. These restrictions will include size limits and social distancing rules for businesses such as large event venues, bars and nightclubs.

Starting May 19, event venues and restaurants are among those businesses which can open at full capacity.
The governor said indoor masking will continue, however it is unclear whether it will be a "requirement" or "recommendation" by May 19. Lamont said he is in talks with other officials and will make that announcement before the complete rollback for Connecticut businesses next month.

"Probably we are going to require indoor masking a little bit longer unless you are vaccinated – in a crowed public place. But that’s it," Lamont said.

We're so close to them finally admitting (with their actions at least, that masks are useless

verb_to_trust wrote:We're so close to them finally admitting (with their actions at least, that masks are useless

With every restriction that gets eased or discontinued, there will be a group who claims it was never worth it. I think masks have proved their worth. You kept saying we'd never stop wearing them, but I think most people knew it would be for a time, and that time would come sooner if people just did this very easy thing.

Mask arent useless.
Lots of countries have been using them in daily bases and it helps to not spread lots of diseases.

400,000 dead Americans, record unemployment, and a cratered economy, but fuck yeah, we made some Republicans cover their face for a whole year!!!

["deal with it" gif, but with a mask instead of sunglasses]

Rob wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:We're so close to them finally admitting (with their actions at least, that masks are useless

With every restriction that gets eased or discontinued, there will be a group who claims it was never worth it. I think masks have proved their worth. You kept saying we'd never stop wearing them, but I think most people knew it would be for a time, and that time would come sooner if people just did this very easy thing.

Agree. Verb, you appear to be ignoring the long process that got us to the point where the rules are becoming less necessary and focusing only on an emotionally driven subjective analysis of the current state, then tying that conclusion back to a arbitrarily chosen initial state absent it's context and developmental history. You're basically a COVID leftist.

Rob wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:We're so close to them finally admitting (with their actions at least, that masks are useless

With every restriction that gets eased or discontinued, there will be a group who claims it was never worth it. I think masks have proved their worth. You kept saying we'd never stop wearing them, but I think most people knew it would be for a time, and that time would come sooner if people just did this very easy thing.

Where is the proof that they worked?

Bi_3 wrote:

Rob wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:We're so close to them finally admitting (with their actions at least, that masks are useless

With every restriction that gets eased or discontinued, there will be a group who claims it was never worth it. I think masks have proved their worth. You kept saying we'd never stop wearing them, but I think most people knew it would be for a time, and that time would come sooner if people just did this very easy thing.

Agree. Verb, you appear to be ignoring the long process that got us to the point where the rules are becoming less necessary and focusing only on an emotionally driven subjective analysis of the current state, then tying that conclusion back to a arbitrarily chosen initial state absent it's context and developmental history. You're basically a COVID leftist.

Seasonality and vaccine uptake. The end.

verb_to_trust wrote:Where is the proof that they worked?

Wang X, Ferro EG, Zhou G, Hashimoto D, Bhatt DL. Association Between Universal Masking in a Health Care System and SARS-CoV-2 Positivity Among Health Care Workers. JAMA. 2020.10.1001/jama.2020.12897. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32663246external icon.

Mitze T., Kosfeld R., Rode J., Wälde K. Face Masks Considerably Reduce COVID-19 Cases in Germany: A Synthetic Control Method Approach. IZA – Institute of Labor Economics (Germany);2020.ISSN: 2365-9793, DP No. 13319. http://ftp.iza.org/dp13319.pdfpdf iconexternal icon

Gallaway MS, Rigler J, Robinson S, et al. Trends in COVID-19 Incidence After Implementation of Mitigation Measures – Arizona, January 22-August 7, 2020. MMWR Morb Mortal Wkly Rep. 2020;69(40):1460-1463.10.15585/mmwr.mm6940e3. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/33031366external icon.

Lyu W, Wehby GL. Community Use Of Face Masks And COVID-19: Evidence From A Natural Experiment Of State Mandates In The US. Health Aff (Millwood). 2020;39(8):1419-1425.10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32543923external icon.

Hatzius J, Struyven D, Rosenberg I. Face Masks and GDP. Goldman Sachs Research https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/p ... mlexternal icon. Accessed July 8, 2020.

Karaivanov A., Lu S.E., Shigeoka H., Chen C., Pamplona S. Face Masks, Public Policies And Slowing The Spread Of Covid-19: Evidence from Canada National Bureau Of Economic Research 2020.Working Paper 27891. http://www.nber.org/papers/w27891external icon.

Chernozhukov V, Kasahara H, Schrimpf P. Causal Impact of Masks, Policies, Behavior on Early Covid-19 Pandemic in the U.S. medRxiv. 2020.10.1101/2020.05.27.20115139. http://medrxiv.org/content/early/2020/0 ... ctexternal icon.

Leffler CT, Ing EB, Lykins JD, Hogan MC, McKeown CA, Grzybowski A. Association of country-wide coronavirus mortality with demographics, testing, lockdowns, and public wearing of masks (updated August 4, 2020). medRxiv. 2020.10.1101/2020.05.22.20109231. http://medrxiv.org/content/early/2020/0 ... ctexternal icon

but masks are annoying

spike wrote:but masks are annoying

This was a good response to Verb's question, so I just want to add that "common sense" was also an acceptable answer.

B wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:Where is the proof that they worked?

Wang X, Ferro EG, Zhou G, Hashimoto D, Bhatt DL. Association Between Universal Masking in a Health Care System and SARS-CoV-2 Positivity Among Health Care Workers. JAMA. 2020.10.1001/jama.2020.12897. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32663246external icon.

Mitze T., Kosfeld R., Rode J., Wälde K. Face Masks Considerably Reduce COVID-19 Cases in Germany: A Synthetic Control Method Approach. IZA – Institute of Labor Economics (Germany);2020.ISSN: 2365-9793, DP No. 13319. http://ftp.iza.org/dp13319.pdfpdf iconexternal icon

Gallaway MS, Rigler J, Robinson S, et al. Trends in COVID-19 Incidence After Implementation of Mitigation Measures – Arizona, January 22-August 7, 2020. MMWR Morb Mortal Wkly Rep. 2020;69(40):1460-1463.10.15585/mmwr.mm6940e3. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/33031366external icon.

Lyu W, Wehby GL. Community Use Of Face Masks And COVID-19: Evidence From A Natural Experiment Of State Mandates In The US. Health Aff (Millwood). 2020;39(8):1419-1425.10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32543923external icon.

Hatzius J, Struyven D, Rosenberg I. Face Masks and GDP. Goldman Sachs Research https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/p ... mlexternal icon. Accessed July 8, 2020.

Karaivanov A., Lu S.E., Shigeoka H., Chen C., Pamplona S. Face Masks, Public Policies And Slowing The Spread Of Covid-19: Evidence from Canada National Bureau Of Economic Research 2020.Working Paper 27891. http://www.nber.org/papers/w27891external icon.

Chernozhukov V, Kasahara H, Schrimpf P. Causal Impact of Masks, Policies, Behavior on Early Covid-19 Pandemic in the U.S. medRxiv. 2020.10.1101/2020.05.27.20115139. http://medrxiv.org/content/early/2020/0 ... ctexternal icon.

Leffler CT, Ing EB, Lykins JD, Hogan MC, McKeown CA, Grzybowski A. Association of country-wide coronavirus mortality with demographics, testing, lockdowns, and public wearing of masks (updated August 4, 2020). medRxiv. 2020.10.1101/2020.05.22.20109231. http://medrxiv.org/content/early/2020/0 ... ctexternal icon

I mean, we are at 574k Covid deaths as of today. This is with mask mandates in most places, life slowing down a bit, and other restrictions. At this point you would have to argue that people covering their nose & mouth, thereby reducing some/most of the airborne germs from entering your body, made absolutely no difference. I don't get it.

Ah, "common sense", the answer that we pay Dr Fauci the highest federal salary for.

Peeps wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

wease wrote:Yesterday, our governor declared Covid was no longer a health emergency and took authority away from all local governments to issue mask mandates or other restrictions. He thinks the vaccine has stopped it in its tracks when less than 25% of the state has even been vaccinated.

The media weaponized this virus to stop Trump and now this is the result, dumbass politicians risking restarting the pandemic in order to own the libs. Clown world.

i dont think the media did that. this was a serious pandemic (as if there are others) and he took it very lightly and did almost next to nothing to stop it until he realized it could cost him the election. had any president treated it the same way the media coverage would have been the same

Lol

All the dates on those links seem to have an endpoint of late summer. Did they realize they couldn't jerk themselves off over cotton face coverings anymore when cases exploded again in the fall?

verb_to_trust wrote:All the dates on those links seem to have an endpoint of late summer. Did they realize they couldn't jerk themselves off over cotton face coverings anymore when cases exploded again in the fall?

No, masks stopped working this past September.

spike wrote:but masks are annoying

Am I allowed to admit that I'm dreading the thought of being fully vaccinated but having to wear a mask while I try to teach next school year?