Red Mosquito

The WHO?

Can there be a better answer to the question "do marches matter" than white nationalist media feeling the need to lash out at and delegitimize the march organizer?

theplatypus wrote:The WHO?

We were one of two remaining founders.

theplatypus wrote:The WHO?

wease wrote:So, now the US is leaving the UN and the WHO.

http://nbc4i.com/2017/01/22/bill-introd ... d-nations/

the republican congressman who introduced that bill

McParadigm wrote:

theplatypus wrote:The WHO?

We were one of two remaining founders.

One of us gone. All of us sad.

theplatypus wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

theplatypus wrote:The WHO?

We were one of two remaining founders.

One of us gone. All of us sad.

It's sympathy, not tears people need, when they're the front page sad news

theplatypus wrote:The WHO?

Strat wrote: I thought we were living in carnage though i feel cheated

Chalkings are up triple digits, so remain vigilant.

Are Paul Ryan, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, et al, going to stand up to Trump in defense of fiscal responsibility and the merits of free trade? Almost assuredly not when it comes to fiscal policy, but I really hope they do when it comes to his awful protectionist policies.

The conflict between traditional economic conservative ideology vs Trump is one of the things I'm most fascinated to watch unfold, unfortunately as each day goes by I'm becoming more afraid that Trump is going to somehow steamroll them.

--- wrote:identity politics has well and truly ruined america, maybe forever

Client politics has definitely done its share as well.

tragabigzanda wrote:

4/5 wrote:Are Paul Ryan, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, et al, going to stand up to Trump in defense of fiscal responsibility and the merits of free trade? Almost assuredly not when it comes to fiscal policy, but I really hope they do when it comes to his awful protectionist policies.

The conflict between traditional economic conservative ideology vs Trump is one of the things I'm most fascinated to watch unfold, unfortunately as each day goes by I'm becoming more afraid that Trump is going to somehow steamroll them.

Someone posted recently about an overheard conversation on Capital Hill. The gist was that they would support him for a while, get their favorite legislation passed, then impeach him once he does something they can't really gloss over; then they'll support Pence all the way.

I think this is an extremely likely scenario.

I don't know. I wouldn't hold my breath over any Republican-led impeachment stuff. I think Trump is going to remain VERY popular among his voters throughout his term so I really can't picture it being politically viable for top Republicans to turn against him as dramatically as impeachment proceedings would necessitate.

Rubio, McCain and Graham all pushed very hard on Tillerson and they all folded. I'm just not seeing much evidence yet that Trump will be cut loose at the first sign of trouble, and I think we may be overestimating the spine that most Congressional Republicans have.

A lot of people seem to think impeaching a president and then getting him out of office (2 different things, btw) is easily done.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:A lot of people seem to think impeaching a president and then getting him out of office (2 different things, btw) is easily done.

I certainly don't think that. But I do think if there's a guy out there who can make it look pretty damn easy, it's probably Donald J.

4/5 wrote:

--- wrote:identity politics has well and truly ruined america, maybe forever

Client politics has definitely done its share as well.

True, but 1.) in client politics the 'client' piece in changeable... if you don't like the MIC you can choose to not be a member of that group. You can't choose to your sexual orientation or race or what social class you are born into. 2.) No major party is openly advocating client politics as their future platform.

tragabigzanda wrote:

4/5 wrote:Are Paul Ryan, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, et al, going to stand up to Trump in defense of fiscal responsibility and the merits of free trade? Almost assuredly not when it comes to fiscal policy, but I really hope they do when it comes to his awful protectionist policies.

The conflict between traditional economic conservative ideology vs Trump is one of the things I'm most fascinated to watch unfold, unfortunately as each day goes by I'm becoming more afraid that Trump is going to somehow steamroll them.

Someone posted recently about an overheard conversation on Capital Hill. The gist was that they would support him for a while, get their favorite legislation passed, then impeach him once he does something they can't really gloss over; then they'll support Pence all the way.

I think this is an extremely likely scenario.

With all due respect, the chances that the Republicans would want the first impeached President of the United States to come from their party is zero. I can't think of single thing outside of Trump being exposed ordering assassinations of political opponent US persons on US soil or orchestrating a false flag terrorist strike that they wouldn't be able to explain away in one shape or another.

theplatypus wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:That's definitely being played backwards

WELP

http://www.refinery29.com/2017/01/13748 ... try_137481

I've been assuming pretty much any and all horrible things said or written about Trump have been true since July or so. I'm not sure they've been wrong once.

Trump Aides Keep Leaking Embarrassing Stories About How He Can’t Handle Embarrassment
By Eric Levitz

The president is a 70-year-old child whose TV time must be closely monitored — because any news story that upsets his ego will trigger a temper tantrum followed by irrational demands that his indulgent, overwhelmed guardians will be helpless to refuse.

Or so Donald Trump’s aides keep confiding to the nearest available reporter.

On Sunday, one of the president’s confidantes told Politico that his staffers have to “control information that may infuriate him,” a task made difficult by the fact that the leader of the free world “gets bored and likes to watch TV.”

That same day, some Trump aides provided the New York Times with a portrait of the president as a moody adolescent.

Mr. Trump grew increasingly angry on Inauguration Day after reading a series of Twitter messages pointing out that the size of his inaugural crowd did not rival that of Mr. Obama’s in 2009. But he spent his Friday night in a whirlwind of celebration and affirmation. When he awoke on Saturday morning, after his first night in the Executive Mansion, the glow was gone, several people close to him said, and the new president was filled anew with a sense of injury.
“The lack of discipline troubled even senior members of Mr. Trump’s circle,” the paper wrote, “some of whom had urged him not to indulge his simmering resentment at what he saw as unfair news coverage.”

And then, on Monday night, Trump’s staffers whispered an even more vivid account of his rough weekend to the Washington Post.

President Trump had just returned to the White House on Saturday from his final inauguration event, a tranquil interfaith prayer service, when the flashes of anger began to build.

Trump turned on the television to see a jarring juxtaposition — massive demonstrations around the globe protesting his day-old presidency and footage of the sparser crowd at his inauguration, with large patches of white empty space on the Mall. As his press secretary, Sean Spicer, was still unpacking boxes in his spacious new West Wing office, Trump grew increasingly and visibly enraged…Over the objections of his aides and advisers — who urged him to focus on policy and the broader goals of his presidency — the new president issued a decree: He wanted a fiery public response, and he wanted it to come from his press secretary.
The Post’s story is chock-full of remarkable details. To list just a few:

1. After forcing Spicer to baldly lie to the White House press corps about the size of his inauguration crowd, the president fumed that his press secretary’s performance was “not forceful enough.” According to Axios, Trump was also incensed by Spicer’s poor taste in suits, and is already considering treating the former RNC staffer to his signature catchphrase.

2. Trump already “feels demoralized that the public’s perception of his presidency so far does not necessarily align with his own sense of accomplishment.”

3. Some Trump aides think Kellyanne Conway is trying to undermine Spicer so as to steal his job.

4. Jared Kushner tried to prevent Conway from being invited into the White House at all, because he viewed her “as a possible threat to his role as Trump’s chief consigliere.”

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Ultimately, though, the most astounding sentence in the Post’s write-up might be the following:

This account of Trump’s tumultuous first days in office comes from interviews with nearly a dozen senior White House officials and other Trump advisers and confidants, some of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private conversations and moments.
Nearly a dozen of Trump’s closest confidantes helped plant an embarrassing news story about how their boss can’t handle embarrassing news stories. Which is to say: A president who prizes loyalty in his subordinates has already been betrayed by a huge swath of his inner circle.

It isn’t hard to understand why Trump’s aides would want to distance themselves from the mogul’s decision to begin his presidency by shouting self-aggrandizing delusions at CIA employees, congressional leaders, and the Fourth Estate. But we aren’t in the late days of a losing campaign, when it’s normal for advisers to start leaking dirt on the boss to save their reputations. We’re less than four full days into the Trump presidency, with (barring death, impeachment, resignation, or coup) at least 1,461 to go.