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Re: Running
Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 7:31 pm
by stip
VinylGuy wrote:stip wrote:Strat wrote:Super happy for Watt invigorating Ed the past couple of years.
Really wish theyd just hand the raw tracks over to Josh Evans though!
he is doing a mix!
really?
yeah, its cd 2 of the deluxe packaging
Re: Running
Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 7:32 pm
by VinylGuy
stip wrote:VinylGuy wrote:stip wrote:Strat wrote:Super happy for Watt invigorating Ed the past couple of years.
Really wish theyd just hand the raw tracks over to Josh Evans though!
he is doing a mix!
really?
yeah, its cd 2 of the deluxe packaging
oh cool! i dont collect cds anymore, just vinyl. But ill sure download that one and hopefully it will be available at Spotify
Re: Running
Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 7:33 pm
by oftheearth
Thurman Murman wrote:oftheearth wrote:Weird, post got deleted.
Just curious if people felt this song was better or worse than ‘Can’t Deny Me’?
No question its better than Can't Deny Me. CDM is a bottom 5 Pearl Jam song. While Running aint great and arguably isnt as good as anything on Gigaton, it is easily better than at least 2-3 songs on LB.
I agree with this. I have to admit, I didn’t mind CDM at first but I think it was because of the seven year gap between LB and Gigaton I was ready to hear anything PJ related. The only real issue I have with ‘Running’ is the “Lost in the tunnel” bit. Although, it has been a earworm for better or worse. Verses and bridge are best parts for sure and make the song tolerable. Dig the energy and will probably like it more in the context of the album.
Re: Running
Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 7:37 pm
by Fattie_Vedder
Fattie_Vedder wrote:STIP, IMPORTANT QUESTIONS: WHICH IS BETTER LIGHT YEARS OR DARK MATTER? AND WHICH IS BETTER BREAKERFALL OR NAIS?
I need to resolve some math here.
Re: Running
Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 7:38 pm
by Ms Harmless
Ms Harmless wrote:tree_ wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:I've been open and honest about my precarious mental state on this site, and that I come here for friends and escapism
I have always, for years, said that you take me as I am, as a human being, or you don't get my friendship; I am not about the ribbing, the joshing, the roasting, and the "loving" bullying; I've never had a shtick except for fake cis guy
I think a member of this site (any member, not just me) should be able to say "have at it, with anyone else, and I'll celebrate your mutual enjoyment of it; but that behaviour depends on mutual consent, or *it is bullying*, and I don't consent"; everyone I know who knows and loves me (and I am polyamorous, so that's four people in a romantic basis and even more on a friendship one) respects that about me
I will snap when I feel cornered and bullied, it is what it is, but I've never been anything but honest
intention isn't irrelevant when it comes to how we treat others, but it isn't everything either; I will not admit to an innate flaw in my character just because my feelings are hurt; someone did that, whether they meant to or not
I didn't say "flaw"...
I agree that trag has represented himself poorly and that if he had better intentions, he'd show more respect for the boundaries you have illustrated very clearly.
I'm only offering a little more: that you find it in your heart to at least understand where people like him might be coming from, to help give a little more benefit of the doubt. Not for his sake, but for yours.
lol I'll be fine
tree, are you gonna give Trag a pep talk too?
Re: Running
Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 7:39 pm
by oftheearth
I also made my RM name prior to hearing ‘Of the Earth’ when they released potential song titles on the upcoming record. I thought maybe it would become a good song down the road, alas.
Re: Running
Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 7:39 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Running
Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 7:41 pm
by stip
tragabigzanda wrote:Guys when you really think about it, everything happening in this thread is the logical extension of Backspacer
Trag has offered a lot of really good one liner posts this afternoon by way of apology
Re: Running
Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 7:41 pm
by tree_
Ms Harmless wrote:tree, are you gonna give Trag a pep talk too?
I side with the victim. Trag knows what he did wrong. I don't know what's gotten into him lately, but I know he's better than this.
Re: Running
Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 7:42 pm
by stip
Fattie_Vedder wrote:Fattie_Vedder wrote:STIP, IMPORTANT QUESTIONS: WHICH IS BETTER LIGHT YEARS OR DARK MATTER? AND WHICH IS BETTER BREAKERFALL OR NAIS?
I need to resolve some math here.
Dark Matter is better than Light Years. It is not better than the version of Puzzles and Games I have in my head.
NAIS is much better than Breakerfall. More importantly, Gonna See My Friend is better than Breakerfall.
These should be things everyone knows. What is being taught in school?
Re: Running
Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 7:43 pm
by Ms Harmless
tree_ wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:tree, are you gonna give Trag a pep talk too?
I side with the victim. Trag knows what he did wrong. I don't know what's gotten into him lately, but I know he's better than this.
why are you telling me?
Re: Running
Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 7:43 pm
by tree_
Ms Harmless wrote:tree_ wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:tree, are you gonna give Trag a pep talk too?
I side with the victim. Trag knows what he did wrong. I don't know what's gotten into him lately, but I know he's better than this.
why are you telling me?
It was the best response I could think of to your question.
Re: Running
Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 7:44 pm
by stip
oftheearth wrote:I also made my RM name prior to hearing ‘Of the Earth’ when they released potential song titles on the upcoming record. I thought maybe it would become a good song down the road, alas.
I appreciate a good investment screen name, even if it doesn't pan out
Re: Running
Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 7:44 pm
by EBowie
One thing I will say about these fast, high-energy type songs is that I appreciate that the band still feels compelled to strive for that style. They easily could have phoned-in the later part of their career by turning into some mid-tempo, alt-country band that just spits out one ballad after another. Maybe that's a bad description, I dunno. In other words, I'm glad the intent is still where it's at, even if they occasionally miss the mark with the results. They could play it safe and say "we're old, let's tone down the energy". They clearly don't want to do that and I respect them for that.
Re: Running
Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 7:51 pm
by epilogue
oftheearth wrote:Weird, post got deleted.
Just curious if people felt this song was better or worse than ‘Can’t Deny Me’?
If I'm being 100% honest and authentic and not trying to play to the RM majority... Can't Deny Me is better.
Now, that's not to say that I dislike this song, not by any means. I've been a vocal supporter of CDM from the jump. I still think it's a great song and wildly underrated.
Perhaps Running will grow on me. There is still a lot of context (the full album) missing. But my gut reaction after listening to Running about 6 times so far is that CDM is better. But I also fully get why most RMers (or PJ fans in general) would disagree.
Re: Running
Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 7:51 pm
by Fattie_Vedder
stip wrote:Fattie_Vedder wrote:Fattie_Vedder wrote:STIP, IMPORTANT QUESTIONS: WHICH IS BETTER LIGHT YEARS OR DARK MATTER? AND WHICH IS BETTER BREAKERFALL OR NAIS?
I need to resolve some math here.
Dark Matter is better than Light Years. It is not better than the version of Puzzles and Games I have in my head.
NAIS is much better than Breakerfall. More importantly, Gonna See My Friend is better than Breakerfall.
These should be things everyone knows. What is being taught in school?
Just seeing if the math maths. I thought you liked Light Years way more than NAIS, but I must have confused it with puzzles and games. If it was LY, the math did not math:
Dark Matter > Light Years > running
Light Years > NAIS > dark matter > running
Turns out you do not like LY more than NAIS. all is well in the world.
Also, Breakerfall > running > gods dice > evacuation. And I didn’t know where you stood on breakerfall compared to NAIS.
Re: Running
Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 7:54 pm
by stip
epilogue wrote:oftheearth wrote:Weird, post got deleted.
Just curious if people felt this song was better or worse than ‘Can’t Deny Me’?
If I'm being 100% honest and authentic and not trying to play to the RM majority... Can't Deny Me is better.
Now, that's not to say that I dislike this song, not by any means. I've been a vocal supporter of CDM from the jump. I still think it's a great song and wildly underrated.
Perhaps Running will grow on me. There is still a lot of context (the full album) missing. But my gut reaction after listening to Running about 6 times so far is that CDM is better. But I also fully get why most RMers (or PJ fans in general) would disagree.
it's been a long time since I heard CDM. I recall kind of liking the music.
Running grew on me a lot in a day.
Re: Running
Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 7:55 pm
by wease
stip wrote:Fattie_Vedder wrote:Fattie_Vedder wrote:STIP, IMPORTANT QUESTIONS: WHICH IS BETTER LIGHT YEARS OR DARK MATTER? AND WHICH IS BETTER BREAKERFALL OR NAIS?
I need to resolve some math here.
Dark Matter is better than Light Years. It is not better than the version of Puzzles and Games I have in my head.
NAIS is much better than Breakerfall. More importantly, Gonna See My Friend is better than Breakerfall.
These should be things everyone knows. What is being taught in school?
Jesus Christ. Wrong on both counts. I’m starting to regret pre-ordering the book.
Re: Running
Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 7:57 pm
by stip
wease wrote:stip wrote:Fattie_Vedder wrote:Fattie_Vedder wrote:STIP, IMPORTANT QUESTIONS: WHICH IS BETTER LIGHT YEARS OR DARK MATTER? AND WHICH IS BETTER BREAKERFALL OR NAIS?
I need to resolve some math here.
Dark Matter is better than Light Years. It is not better than the version of Puzzles and Games I have in my head.
NAIS is much better than Breakerfall. More importantly, Gonna See My Friend is better than Breakerfall.
These should be things everyone knows. What is being taught in school?
Jesus Christ. Wrong on both counts. I’m starting to regret pre-ordering the book.
there is nary a ranking to be found. It was a challenge.
Re: Running
Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 7:57 pm
by epilogue
stip wrote:epilogue wrote:oftheearth wrote:Weird, post got deleted.
Just curious if people felt this song was better or worse than ‘Can’t Deny Me’?
If I'm being 100% honest and authentic and not trying to play to the RM majority... Can't Deny Me is better.
Now, that's not to say that I dislike this song, not by any means. I've been a vocal supporter of CDM from the jump. I still think it's a great song and wildly underrated.
Perhaps Running will grow on me. There is still a lot of context (the full album) missing. But my gut reaction after listening to Running about 6 times so far is that CDM is better. But I also fully get why most RMers (or PJ fans in general) would disagree.
it's been a long time since I heard CDM. I recall kind of liking the music.
Running grew on me a lot in a day.
I listened to it like three times in a row and then took a few hours off and listened again. And I liked it more after the break. Sometimes the weight of expectation and excitement is unfair. I like Running but I need to hear it in a full album context, I think. These two songs, so far, don't feel cohesive to me. The same way, to be fair, that CDM didn't feel cohesive to LB or to what eventually became Gigaton.