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Re: Election 2016
Posted: Fri January 29, 2016 2:06 am
by stip
cutuphalfdead wrote:WaPo is really down on Bernie, high on Hillary.
that read a bit like a hatchet piece insofar as the majority of the criticisms are pretty interchangeable with any other presidential candidate ever
He oversells his solutions!
His followers enjoy believing in them!
He is sometimes vague on details!
He makes calculated political decisions!
Hilary 2016!
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Fri January 29, 2016 2:42 am
by 96583UP
looks like WaPo got served:
Following Thursday's criticism of his campaign by the Washington Post editorial board, Bernie Sanders quietly took off his gloves and then let loose on the prominent newspaper.
Asked specifically to respond to the editorial at a breakfast event in Iowa hosted by Bloomberg Politics, Sanders said: "That's not a new argument. We've been hearing that months and months, and that's in a sense what this campaign is about. People are telling us, whether it's the Washington Post editorial board or anybody else, our ideas are too ambitious — can't happen. Too bold — really? Well, here's something which is really bold. In the last 30 years, there has been a massive transfer of wealth from the middle class and working families of this country. The middle class has become poorer and trillions of dollars have been transferred to the top one-tenth of 1 percent."
"That's pretty radical, isn't it?" Sanders said. "Where was The Washington Post to express concern that the middle class was shrinking? Where was The Washington Post talking about this radical transformation of America?"
Later in the event, Sanders took the opportunity to further criticize the paper by when the conversation turned to the Middle East and foreign policy.
"Getting back to The Washington Post — check out where all the geniuses on the editorial page were with regard to the invasion of Iraq."
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Fri January 29, 2016 2:48 am
by Kaius
feel the beeeerrrn
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Fri January 29, 2016 2:56 am
by 96583UP
for real though, i do look forward to when we can retire the populist bank-hating
its been 8 years since the credit crisis
banks paid out the ass for it
fines, lawsuits, layoffs
got restructured
laws were changed
banks are basically utility companies now
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Fri January 29, 2016 3:03 am
by 96583UP
where would bank-hating aggression be better applied in 2016? perhaps:
healthcare costs: these companies seem to make pretty gnarly margins in the US. kind of like the banks used to on credit card fees before the universe threw up on them.
higher education costs: same here.... student loan debt. this is an issue because universities basically do whatever the fuck they want to raise tuition every year. education inflation is ridiculous.
gun control: a lot of talk on this, not a lot of walk.
fossil fuels / global warming: perhaps because gas is cheap now no one cares about getting on oil companies anymore. i miss that populist hate-rant.
tax reform: this would probably take the most effort of any issue
child care and maternity leave benefits: fucking brutal
retirement benefits: you have the choice of living in a trailer in the Florida panhandle or in your kids' basement
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Fri January 29, 2016 3:22 am
by Simple Torture
I couldn't laugh because the baby is sleeping, but I almost exploded when Rubio said that Jesus is the only savior of the world. I can't take this.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Fri January 29, 2016 3:24 am
by Green Habit
Simple Torture wrote:I couldn't laugh because the baby is sleeping, but I almost exploded when Rubio said that Jesus is the only savior of the world. I can't take this.
And he thinks Sweden has a president instead of a prime minister.
I'm still laughing at the fact that they fielded a question from the wonderfully redundantly named "Dulce Candy".
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Fri January 29, 2016 3:25 am
by Simple Torture
Green Habit wrote:Simple Torture wrote:I couldn't laugh because the baby is sleeping, but I almost exploded when Rubio said that Jesus is the only savior of the world. I can't take this.
And he thinks Sweden has a president instead of a prime minister.
I'm still laughing at the fact that they fielded a question from the wonderfully redundantly named "Dulce Candy".
It was creepy as shit when Bush called her beautiful. I don't think he called that other dude handsome.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Fri January 29, 2016 3:34 am
by simple schoolboy
stip wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:WaPo is really down on Bernie, high on Hillary.
that read a bit like a hatchet piece insofar as the majority of the criticisms are pretty interchangeable with any other presidential candidate ever
He oversells his solutions!
His followers enjoy believing in them!
He is sometimes vague on details!
He makes calculated political decisions!
Hilary 2016!
Bernie bros are the worst though, and we have Trump fans to deal with this election cycle.
I could be mistaken, but he seems to be providing more specific policy proposals than Hillary. He gets points for that, I guess.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Fri January 29, 2016 4:06 am
by Simple Torture
WTF Ben Carson?
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Fri January 29, 2016 4:35 am
by Green Habit
Simple Torture wrote:WTF Ben Carson?
Every time he starts talking, I think "WTF is he even on this stage?" At least I can vaguely explain the presence of everyone else.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Fri January 29, 2016 5:00 am
by tragabigzanda
Just read the NYT GOP debate review:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/29/us/po ... ebate.html
I'm terrified at the prospect of living in a nation run by any these guys who isn't Rand Paul (or possibly Jeb Bush).
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Fri January 29, 2016 6:05 am
by Bammer
Green Habit wrote:Simple Torture wrote:WTF Ben Carson?
Every time he starts talking, I think "WTF is he even on this stage?" At least I can vaguely explain the presence of everyone else.
Rooney rule
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Fri January 29, 2016 3:03 pm
by Green Habit
Bammer wrote:Green Habit wrote:Simple Torture wrote:WTF Ben Carson?
Every time he starts talking, I think "WTF is he even on this stage?" At least I can vaguely explain the presence of everyone else.
Rooney rule
You only have to interview a minority to satisfy that rule.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Fri January 29, 2016 3:43 pm
by Bammer
Green Habit wrote:Bammer wrote:Green Habit wrote:Simple Torture wrote:WTF Ben Carson?
Every time he starts talking, I think "WTF is he even on this stage?" At least I can vaguely explain the presence of everyone else.
Rooney rule
You only have to interview a minority to satisfy that rule.
Isn't this all just a big year long job interview?
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Fri January 29, 2016 4:04 pm
by Green Habit
Bammer wrote:Green Habit wrote:Bammer wrote:Green Habit wrote:Simple Torture wrote:WTF Ben Carson?
Every time he starts talking, I think "WTF is he even on this stage?" At least I can vaguely explain the presence of everyone else.
Rooney rule
You only have to interview a minority to satisfy that rule.
Isn't this all just a big year long job interview?
One game at a time, one season at a time...
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Fri January 29, 2016 4:35 pm
by 4/5
This just in, Bernie's healthcare plan is probably a lot more
expensive than he says.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Fri January 29, 2016 5:00 pm
by Mine
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz- ... ng/2262826
It is simply disgusting that Jeb Bush and his super Pac would exploit my wife’s tragedy for his crude political gain. Shame on Jeb Bush," said Michael Schiavo, Terri's husband, who said she did not want to be kept alive in that state and was repeatedly challenged by Bush and Schiavo's parents and siblings.
"Using his disgraceful intervention in our family’s private trauma to advance his political career shows that he has learned nothing. He’s proud of the fact that he used the machinery of government to keep a person alive through extraordinary artificial means -- contrary to the orders of the court that were based on the courts determination, made over 6 years of litigation, that doing so would be against her wishes," he said. "What the campaign video shows is that if he ever got his hands on the power of government again, he would do the same thing again, maybe next time to your family."
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Fri January 29, 2016 5:04 pm
by tommymtcom
Why is Jeb even in the race anymore? Nobody wants him to be President.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Fri January 29, 2016 5:21 pm
by McParadigm
tommymtcom wrote:Why is Jeb even in the race anymore? Nobody wants him to be President.
Repub establishment fantasies that all this insanity will just go away and it'll be business as usual