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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Sun April 14, 2019 4:49 am
by Anders
VinylGuy wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Nope. Watch it again. It's still perfectly sublime.
After his introduction in TFA where is chose to have an important item of info, maybe because he seems like a very wise guy, in this one he acts and talks like a child.
I dont think his arc is wonderful. I get what rian tried to do, but i always cringe with any of Poe´s appearances. STILL, way better than finn´s for sure.
Yes, both Poe and Finn are poorly used in TLJ.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Sun April 14, 2019 5:30 am
by VinylGuy
Anders wrote:VinylGuy wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Nope. Watch it again. It's still perfectly sublime.
After his introduction in TFA where is chose to have an important item of info, maybe because he seems like a very wise guy, in this one he acts and talks like a child.
I dont think his arc is wonderful. I get what rian tried to do, but i always cringe with any of Poe´s appearances. STILL, way better than finn´s for sure.
Yes, both Poe and Finn are poorly used in TLJ.
Which is shame because they were good in TFA.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Sun April 14, 2019 6:06 am
by Anders
VinylGuy wrote:Anders wrote:VinylGuy wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Nope. Watch it again. It's still perfectly sublime.
After his introduction in TFA where is chose to have an important item of info, maybe because he seems like a very wise guy, in this one he acts and talks like a child.
I dont think his arc is wonderful. I get what rian tried to do, but i always cringe with any of Poe´s appearances. STILL, way better than finn´s for sure.
Yes, both Poe and Finn are poorly used in TLJ.
Which is shame because they were good in TFA.
I agree.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Sun April 14, 2019 9:05 am
by dimejinky99
I don’t think Poe was underused at all in TLJ. His arc is one of the more important ones.
I do however think Finn was woefully misused. Potential to be a wonderful development of his character and role but it’s just done so hamfistedly.
But I have huge hopes for him in ROS
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Sun April 14, 2019 10:44 am
by Anders
Yes, I fully believe that Finn will shine in IX. Can see it on the actor as well.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Sun April 14, 2019 2:22 pm
by VinylGuy
It seems Rian didnt want the character at all. He grabbed it and gave him the worst story in the movie only to bring it back at the end to do nothing.
Poor Finn, he was the star of the TFA.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Sun April 14, 2019 2:36 pm
by Anders
We’re in complete agreement on this. He was excellent in TFA.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Sun April 14, 2019 4:20 pm
by Monkey_Driven
I liked Poe's arc more in TLJ than TFA. He didn't really have one in the TFA. Finn's character has been wasted since about halfway through TFA.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Mon April 15, 2019 10:44 am
by dimejinky99
Finn or Poe to die in ROS?
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Mon April 15, 2019 11:27 am
by wease
dimejinky99 wrote:Finn or Poe to die in ROS?
Hopefully Poe.
But why do either of them have to die?
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Mon April 15, 2019 11:28 am
by dimejinky99
I just have a feeling one of them will.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Mon April 15, 2019 11:29 am
by wease
The suggested pattern is one of the original three is going to buy the farm. And there’s only one left so...
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Mon April 15, 2019 12:12 pm
by dimejinky99
I’m thinking that shot of Leia and Rey hugging and she’s crying, is at the end. She’s killed Kylo and she feels terrible having to tell Leia
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Mon April 15, 2019 12:18 pm
by wease
dimejinky99 wrote:I’m thinking that shot of Leia and Rey hugging and she’s crying, is at the end. She’s killed Kylo and she feels terrible having to tell Leia
God, I hope so.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Mon April 15, 2019 12:28 pm
by dimejinky99
Leads me to think they can’t have Rey killing him outright cos she’s such a role model. So perhaps she’s just breaking the news he redeemed himself by dying to save them ?
From Palpatine?
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Mon April 15, 2019 12:28 pm
by Anders
It can't be all happy either, with no one dying, no stakes.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Mon April 15, 2019 12:39 pm
by epilogue
I don't think you need any main character deaths for there to be stakes.
No, I don't think Poe or Finn will die.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Mon April 15, 2019 12:42 pm
by Anders
I think Rey, Finn and Poe will survive. Kylo will die. No doubt about it. So for me the question is whether or not Leia, Lando, Chewie, the Falcon and even the droids, will make it. It would be different if they were planning episode X. However, every other planned movie or series is a prequel.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Mon April 15, 2019 1:52 pm
by blueviper
Anders wrote:I think Rey, Finn and Poe will survive. Kylo will die. No doubt about it. So for me the question is whether or not Leia, Lando, Chewie, the Falcon and even the droids, will make it. It would be different if they were planning episode X. However, every other planned movie or series is a prequel.
Why can't most of them live, and have a happy ending? This is Star Wars. It should always be hopeful in the end. It is possible to have characters continue to live after a movie ends. Then you can use your imagination that they lived happy prosperous lives.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Mon April 15, 2019 1:55 pm
by Anders
blueviper wrote:Anders wrote:I think Rey, Finn and Poe will survive. Kylo will die. No doubt about it. So for me the question is whether or not Leia, Lando, Chewie, the Falcon and even the droids, will make it. It would be different if they were planning episode X. However, every other planned movie or series is a prequel.
Why can't most of them live, and have a happy ending? This is Star Wars. It should always be hopeful in the end. It is possible to have characters continue to live after a movie ends. Then you can use your imagination that they lived happy prosperous lives.
Until the new sequels come along, and they are old and bitter?
It adds a little more gravitas when someone dies. It would be strange for me if there isn't any death in the last movie.