Red Mosquito

Twins this offseason:

Yeah, that'll be a hell of a group to lose to the Yankees in the divisional round.

PHATJ wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:No good players want to live in Minnesota

34-year-olds with massively bloated contracts do though

Holy shit!
https://www.mlb.com/news/josh-donaldson-deal-twins

This lineup could be amazing.

SS Jorge Polanco (S) - 22 HR
3B Josh Donaldson (R) - 37 HR
DH Nelson Cruz (R) - 41 HR
RF Max Kepler (L) - 36 HR
1B Miguel Sano (R) - 34 HR
LF Eddie Rosario (L) - 32 HR
C Mitch Garver (R) - 31 HR
2B Luis Arraez (L) - 4 HR
CF Byron Buxton (R) - 10 HR

By May or so, the starting rotation should be any combination of:

Jose Barrios
Jake Odorizzi
Michael Pineda
Rich Hill
Homer Bailey
Brusdar Graterol
Randy Dobnak
Lois Thorpe
Devin Smeltzer

And I’m actually fairly confident that they are actively searching for an impact starting pitcher via trade. 2019 was just the beginning of what will be a Championship contender in 2020.

Plus the Twins have one of the best bullpens (and farm systems) in the league.

What could go wrong?

spike wrote:What could go wrong?

Anything could go wrong for any team. Obviously.

Why do they even play the games?

They might be able to beat the Yankees if they start stealing signs.

spike wrote:They might be able to beat the Yankees if they start stealing signs.

East there

Apparently Josh Donaldson wants to live in Minnesota.

4 years 92 million.

Chris_H_2 wrote:

spike wrote:They might be able to beat the Yankees if they start stealing signs.

East there

A St Louis guy

PHATJ wrote:Twins this offseason:

Considering Odorizzi, Pineda, and Romo were already there last year and Bailey/Hill/Avila/Clippard are worse than the group of free agents they lost, they were basically treading water until the Donaldson deal. That's a huge one, though, and should move the needle and make them the clear favourite in the central, but outside of him that's a pretty unimpressive list.

Congrats on signing Rich Hill, last seen getting arrested for being too drunk to get into a Patriots game.

philpritchard wrote:

PHATJ wrote:Twins this offseason:

Considering Odorizzi, Pineda, and Romo were already there last year and Bailey/Hill/Avila/Clippard are worse than the group of free agents they lost, they were basically treading water until the Donaldson deal. That's a huge one, though, and should move the needle and make them the clear favourite in the central, but outside of him that's a pretty unimpressive list.

Odorizzi, Pineda, and Romo were all unrestricted free agents. Those signings count and are significant. Bailey doesn’t jump out as a particularly impressive signing, but in his final eight starts for Oakland last year he was VERY good. Look at the numbers. Apparently they adjusted his pitch sequencing and tinkered with his mechanics and the results were evident. The Twins appear confident they can continue to get quality innings for a season.

When healthy, which is admittedly rare, Rich Hill can be absolutely filthy. For $3MM this signing could be huge the second half of the season. Avila more than adequately replaces Jason Castro as a complimentary catcher for Mitch Garver. Tyler Clippard is a competitive bullpen arm that gets added to a group that is already one of the best in the league.

When you mention the free agents the Twins lost, I’m assuming you mean Jonathan Schoop and CJ Cron. The Twins are replacing Schoop with Luis Arraez. Arráez hit .334 last year and walked more than he struck out. By the second half of last season he was playing every day and Schoop was not - and he was just a rookie. No back step there. And CJ Cron has been effectively replaced by Josh Donaldson. Cron is a solid player, but he’s not close to Donaldson’s class. Donaldson vastly improves the left side infield defense, and extends the already record setting lineup.

The Twins have significantly improved this offseason. And I think there’s a really good chance that they will make a trade for an impact starting pitcher too. They have the depth and farm system to make that happen if they want to.

Simple Torture wrote:Congrats on signing Rich Hill, last seen getting arrested for being too drunk to get into a Patriots game.

Thanks!

Simple Torture wrote:Congrats on signing Rich Hill, last seen getting arrested for being too drunk to get into a Patriots game.

I thought Rich Hill was just a neighborhood in Boston.

Electromatic wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:Congrats on signing Rich Hill, last seen getting arrested for being too drunk to get into a Patriots game.

I thought Rich Hill was just a neighborhood in Boston.

Yeah take Route 3 to 28.

PHATJ wrote:

philpritchard wrote:

PHATJ wrote:Twins this offseason:

Considering Odorizzi, Pineda, and Romo were already there last year and Bailey/Hill/Avila/Clippard are worse than the group of free agents they lost, they were basically treading water until the Donaldson deal. That's a huge one, though, and should move the needle and make them the clear favourite in the central, but outside of him that's a pretty unimpressive list.

Odorizzi, Pineda, and Romo were all unrestricted free agents. Those signings count and are significant. Bailey doesn’t jump out as a particularly impressive signing, but in his final eight starts for Oakland last year he was VERY good. Look at the numbers. Apparently they adjusted his pitch sequencing and tinkered with his mechanics and the results were evident. The Twins appear confident they can continue to get quality innings for a season.

When healthy, which is admittedly rare, Rich Hill can be absolutely filthy. For $3MM this signing could be huge the second half of the season. Avila more than adequately replaces Jason Castro as a complimentary catcher for Mitch Garver. Tyler Clippard is a competitive bullpen arm that gets added to a group that is already one of the best in the league.

When you mention the free agents the Twins lost, I’m assuming you mean Jonathan Schoop and CJ Cron. The Twins are replacing Schoop with Luis Arraez. Arráez hit .334 last year and walked more than he struck out. By the second half of last season he was playing every day and Schoop was not - and he was just a rookie. No back step there. And CJ Cron has been effectively replaced by Josh Donaldson. Cron is a solid player, but he’s not close to Donaldson’s class. Donaldson vastly improves the left side infield defense, and extends the already record setting lineup.

The Twins have significantly improved this offseason. And I think there’s a really good chance that they will make a trade for an impact starting pitcher too. They have the depth and farm system to make that happen if they want to.

Sure, they "count" as moves they made this offseason, but those ones don't make the team better than last year.

philpritchard wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

philpritchard wrote:

PHATJ wrote:Twins this offseason:

Considering Odorizzi, Pineda, and Romo were already there last year and Bailey/Hill/Avila/Clippard are worse than the group of free agents they lost, they were basically treading water until the Donaldson deal. That's a huge one, though, and should move the needle and make them the clear favourite in the central, but outside of him that's a pretty unimpressive list.

Odorizzi, Pineda, and Romo were all unrestricted free agents. Those signings count and are significant. Bailey doesn’t jump out as a particularly impressive signing, but in his final eight starts for Oakland last year he was VERY good. Look at the numbers. Apparently they adjusted his pitch sequencing and tinkered with his mechanics and the results were evident. The Twins appear confident they can continue to get quality innings for a season.

When healthy, which is admittedly rare, Rich Hill can be absolutely filthy. For $3MM this signing could be huge the second half of the season. Avila more than adequately replaces Jason Castro as a complimentary catcher for Mitch Garver. Tyler Clippard is a competitive bullpen arm that gets added to a group that is already one of the best in the league.

When you mention the free agents the Twins lost, I’m assuming you mean Jonathan Schoop and CJ Cron. The Twins are replacing Schoop with Luis Arraez. Arráez hit .334 last year and walked more than he struck out. By the second half of last season he was playing every day and Schoop was not - and he was just a rookie. No back step there. And CJ Cron has been effectively replaced by Josh Donaldson. Cron is a solid player, but he’s not close to Donaldson’s class. Donaldson vastly improves the left side infield defense, and extends the already record setting lineup.

The Twins have significantly improved this offseason. And I think there’s a really good chance that they will make a trade for an impact starting pitcher too. They have the depth and farm system to make that happen if they want to.

Sure, they "count" as moves they made this offseason, but those ones don't make the team better than last year.

As I explained, those moves combined with the additional moves do make them better.

Tell me more about this Lois Thorpe gal

Bammer wrote:Tell me more about this Lois Thorpe gal

Thanks for reading thoughtfully and thoroughly. She’s curvy.