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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue July 03, 2018 3:10 pm
by B
tragabigzanda wrote:--- wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:
A world in which consumer goods are very expensive but made locally seems, to me, very much preferable to one where they're very cheap but made elsewhere.
This is a confounding opinion.
A world in which the best producer for a given good or service was paid a fair price relative to their economy, and that the safety and well-being of their workers could be guaranteed regardless of their nationality, would be the ideal.
Those things tend to be while locally produced consumer goods are more expensive.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue July 03, 2018 5:02 pm
by McParadigm
Not a lot of good for the president in polling right now. 49 to 47%, Americans believe the president is flat-out racist, and
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue July 03, 2018 5:45 pm
by 96583UP
labor market is tight and birth rates are low need more immigrant labor
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu July 05, 2018 12:05 pm
by Norah
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu July 05, 2018 12:21 pm
by McParadigm
Totally baffled at the willingness of so many Republicans to meet with Russia IN Russia during the Fourth, and to let Moscow humiliate them on television in the process.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu July 05, 2018 2:46 pm
by Bi_3
cutuphalfdead wrote:
That's not at all an intentionally misleading tweet.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu July 05, 2018 3:21 pm
by B
So, Trump wants to take citizenship away from people who cheated to get it. How, exactly does one cheat their way into citizenship?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu July 05, 2018 4:32 pm
by Norah
be brown
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu July 05, 2018 4:46 pm
by Bi_3
B wrote:So, Trump wants to take citizenship away from people who cheated to get it. How, exactly does one cheat their way into citizenship?
Identity theft, lying on the application, etc.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu July 05, 2018 4:47 pm
by tragabigzanda
Bi_3 wrote:B wrote:So, Trump wants to take citizenship away from people who cheated to get it. How, exactly does one cheat their way into citizenship?
Identity theft, lying on the application, etc.
Get an H-1B visa for being a nude model, etc.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu July 05, 2018 5:00 pm
by run2death
Stripping citizenship from already naturalized citizens because of "irregularities" is a dramatic step (and slippery slope) for any government to take.
I mean, hasn't history taught us anything. Jesus fucking Christ.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu July 05, 2018 5:06 pm
by Norah
once they're declared non citizens, it's a lot easier to do whatever the fuck you want with them
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu July 05, 2018 5:07 pm
by Bi_3
tragabigzanda wrote:Bi_3 wrote:B wrote:So, Trump wants to take citizenship away from people who cheated to get it. How, exactly does one cheat their way into citizenship?
Identity theft, lying on the application, etc.
Get an H-1B visa for being a nude model, etc.
Stripping citizenship
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu July 05, 2018 5:13 pm
by run2death
I'm assuming we'll ship all the new noncitizens to Madagascar.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu July 05, 2018 5:15 pm
by McParadigm
Well, to be fair, immigrants commit an insufficient number of crimes and tend to appreciate what few opportunities are allotted them. What’s more unAmerican than that?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu July 05, 2018 5:17 pm
by elliseamos
The firms that profit from the immigration enforcement agency not only have political support from the White House; many of their former lobbyists and consultants now occupy the upper echelons of the Trump administration.
https://theintercept.com/2018/07/05/don ... ntractors/
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu July 05, 2018 5:22 pm
by run2death
Honestly, this is bigger story than it's being played.
It's downright deplorable and goes against every good thing about America.
People should be really upset.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu July 05, 2018 5:46 pm
by B
Bi_3 wrote:B wrote:So, Trump wants to take citizenship away from people who cheated to get it. How, exactly does one cheat their way into citizenship?
Identity theft, lying on the application, etc.
We need a special system for this? That's a federal crime, right?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu July 05, 2018 6:08 pm
by McParadigm
McParadigm wrote:Totally baffled at the willingness of so many Republicans to meet with Russia IN Russia during the Fourth, and to let Moscow humiliate them on television in the process.
This is what I was trying to say
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu July 05, 2018 6:33 pm
by elliseamos
McParadigm wrote:McParadigm wrote:Totally baffled at the willingness of so many Republicans to meet with Russia IN Russia during the Fourth, and to let Moscow humiliate them on television in the process.
This is what I was trying to say
And hopefully this fact was not lost on anyone:
"In December, two Republicans canceled a planned trip to Russia after Moscow denied a visa to Democratic Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (N.H.), an outspoken critic of Russia. This time, only Republicans were in attendance, including Sen. John Thune (S.D.), the third-ranking Republican in the Senate." -WaPo
It is curious to me (but maybe someone else could explain sense out of it) that none of the senators are on the foreign relations committee, but rather the group was mostly reps. sitting on appropriations. Is this because the conversation was about sanctions? Are we planning on a spending bill that will pay the russian government?