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Re: MLB

Posted: Sun April 12, 2020 5:13 pm
by philpritchard
All these ideas the league is supposedly spitballing are stupid. They're not going to bring hundreds of players to these locations without their families and isolate them from the rest of society for five months for our entertainment just so they can say they didn't cancel the season.

If things get back to (somewhat) normal in time to do a shortened season, maybe even in empty (or mostly empty) stadiums, I can see it happening. But these suggestions are awful.

Re: MLB

Posted: Sun April 12, 2020 6:05 pm
by The Argonaut
I don't like the idea of the Cactus League and the Grapefruit League and empty stadiums. It will always feel like an illegitimate season. The WS winner will always have an asterisk

Re: MLB

Posted: Sun April 12, 2020 10:08 pm
by Monkey_Driven
I kind of want them to do this plan just to piss off the crusty old baseball fans.

Re: MLB

Posted: Tue April 14, 2020 5:12 pm
by Biff Pocoroba
If the WWE is essential to the state of Florida then surely hosting a Grapefruit League for baseball would be the same, right?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/13/us/wwe-e ... index.html

Re: MLB

Posted: Tue April 14, 2020 6:38 pm
by rick malone
Hank Steinbrenner dead at age 63.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed April 22, 2020 9:14 pm
by Electromatic
Red Sox video assistant fined a years pay, and the team is docked a second round pick for electronic cheating.

I’m sure the video guy just came up with this shit on his own.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed April 22, 2020 9:19 pm
by philpritchard
Houston penalty: "It was mostly Cora, but the GM and manager both should have known what was going on, should have done more to stop it, and should have reported it when it didn't stop, so they're being penalized too and the organization will be hit hard."

Boston penalty: "I mean, it was mostly just the one guy..."

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed April 22, 2020 9:26 pm
by Norah
And Cora will manage the Red Sox in 2021.

Re: MLB

Posted: Wed April 22, 2020 9:37 pm
by philpritchard
Not to mention it was Boston's second time caught stealing signs illegally in just a few years. The combined penalty has been almost nothing.

Re: MLB

Posted: Thu April 23, 2020 12:06 pm
by numbers
So proud of my Red Sox for not being a bunch of rats like the Astros.

Re: MLB

Posted: Mon April 27, 2020 4:27 am
by PHATJ
I put this together for website I contribute to. It was a lot of fun researching and building the roster. Maybe some of you would enjoy doing the same thing for your favorite team.

Minnesota Twins Single Season 25 Man Dream Roster

Starting Lineup : (*) = Lead League
1. Chuck Knoblauch 2B - 1996 • .341/.448/.517 • 45 Steals • 197 Hits • 14* Triples • 35 Doubles • 143 OPS+ • 8.7 WAR • All Star • MVP-16

2. Rod Carew 1B - 1977 • .388*/.449*/.570 • 128* Runs • 239 Hits • 38 Doubles • 16* Triples • 100 RBI • 23 Steals • 1.019* OPS • 178* OPS+ • 9.7 WAR • All Star • MVP-1 • HOF

3. Kirby Puckett CF - 1988 • .356/.375/.545 • 234* Hits • 42 Doubles • 24 Homers • 121 RBI • 358* Total Bases • 153 OPS+ • 7.8 WAR • All Star • MVP-3 • Gold Glove • Silver Slugger • HOF

4. Harmon Killebrew 3B - 1969 • .276/.427*/.584 • 162* Games • 106 Runs • 49* Homers • 140* RBI • 145*/84 BB/K • 20* IBB • 177 OPS+ • 7.9 oWAR • All Star • MVP-1 • HOF

5. Tony Oliva RF - 1964 • .323*/.359/.557 • 109* Runs • 217* Hits • 43* Doubles • 32 Homers • 374* Total Bases • 150 OPS+ • 6.8 WAR • All Star • MVP-4 • Rookie of the Year

6. Nelson Cruz DH - 2019 • .311/.392/.639 • 26 Doubles • 41 Homers • 108 RBI • 1.031 OPS • 166 OPS+ • 4.4 WAR • MVP-9 • Silver Slugger

7. Joe Mauer C - 2009 • .365*/.444*/.587* • 191 Hits • 30 Doubles • 28 Homers • 96 RBI • 1.031* OPS • 171 OPS+ • 7.8 WAR • All Star • Gold Glove • Silver Slugger • MVP-1

8. Larry Hisle LF - 1977 • .302/.369/.533 • 95 Runs • 36 Doubles • 28 Homers • 119* RBI • 144 OPS+ • 5.1 WAR • MVP-12

9. Zoilo Versalles SS - 1965 • .273/.319/.462 • 126* Runs • 45* Doubles • 12* Triples • 19 Homers • 27 Steals • 308* Total Bases • 115 OPS+ • 7.2 WAR • All Star • Gold Glove • MVP-1


Bench:

1. Mitch Garver C - 2019 • .273/.365/.630 • 31 Homers • 67 RBI • .995 OPS • 156 OPS+ • 4.1 WAR • Silver Slugger

2. Kent Hrbek 1B - 1984 • .311/.383/.522 • 31 Doubles • 27 Homers • 107 RBI • 145 OPS+ • 5.6 WAR • MVP-2

3. Gary Gaetti 3B - 1986 • .287/.347/.518 • 34 Doubles • 34 Homers • 108 RBI • 131 OPS+ • 5.8 WAR • Gold Glove • MVP-16

4. Torii Hunter OF - 2007 • .287/.334/.505 • 94 Runs • 45 Doubles • 28 Homers • 107 RBI • 18 Steals • 123 OPS+ • 3.9 WAR • All Star • Gold Glove • MVP-15

5. Jorge Polanco IF - 2019 • .295/.356/.485 • 107 Runs • 40 Doubles • 7 Triples • 22 Homers • 120 OPS+ • 4.8 WAR • All Star • MVP-13


Starting Rotation: (*) = Lead League

1. Johan Santana LHP - 2004 • 20 W / 6 L • 2.61 ERA • 265* Strikeouts • 182* ERA+ • 2.92* FIP • 0.921* WHIP • 6.2* H9 • 10.5* SO9 • 8.7 WAR • Cy Young • MVP-6

2. Frank Viola LHP - 1988 • 24 W / 7 L • 2.64 ERA • 193 Strikeouts • 154 ERA+ • 2.95 FIP • 1.136 WHIP • 8.3 H9 • 6.8 SO9 • 7.7 WAR • All Star • Cy Young • MVP-10

3. Bert Blyleven RHP - 1973 • 20 W / 17 L • 2.52 ERA • 25 Complete Games • 9 Shutouts • 325 IP • 258 Strikeouts • 156* ERA+ • 2.32* FIP • 1.117 WHIP • 7.1 SO9 • 9.7 WAR • All Star • CYA-7 • HOF

4. Jim Kaat LHP - 1966 • 25 W / 13 L • 2.75 ERA • 19* Complete Games • 3 Shutouts • 304.2* IP • 205 Strikeouts • 131 ERA+ • 3.02 FIP • 1.070 WHIP • 6.1 SO9 • 4.5 WAR • All Star • Gold Glove • MVP-5

5. Jack Morris RHP - 1991 • 18 W / 12 L • 3.43 ERA • 10 Completely Games • 2 Shutouts • 125 ERA+ • 3.66 FIP • 1.289 WHIP • 5.9 SO9 • 4.3 WAR • All Star • CYA-4 • MVP-13 • World Series MVP • HOF


Bullpen:
1. Mudcat Grant RHP - 1965 • 21 W / 7 L • 3.30 ERA • 14 Complete Games • 6 Shutouts • 108 ERA+ • 3.78 FIP • 1.158 WHIP • 4.7 SO9 • 2.5 WAR • All Star • MVP-6

2. Francisco Liriano LHP - 2006 • 12 W / 3 L • 2.16 ERA • 208 ERA+ • 2.55 FIP • 1.000 WHIP • 10.7 SO9 • All Star • ROY-3

3. Jeff Reardon RHP - 1988 • 42 Saves • 2.47 ERA • 165 ERA+ • 3.00 FIP • 1.137 WHIP • 6.9 SO9 • 2.5 WAR • All Star • MVP-15

4. Rick Aguilera RHP - 1991 • 42 Saves • 2.35 ERA • 183 ERA+ • 3.00 FIP • 1.072 WHIP • 5.7 H9 • 8 SO9 • 2.4 WAR • All Star • MVP-18

5. Eddie Guardado LHP - 2002 • 45 Saves • 2.93 ERA • 153 ERA+ • 3.46 FIP • 1.049 WHIP • 7.0 H9 • 9.3 SO9 • 2.0 WAR • All Star • MVP-15

6. Joe Nathan RHP - 2004 • 44 Saves • 1.62 ERA • 294 ERA+ • 2.16 FIP • 0.982 WHIP • 6.0 H9 • 11.1 SO9 • 3.9 WAR • All Star • CYA-4 • MVP-12

Re: MLB

Posted: Tue April 28, 2020 12:26 am
by philpritchard
Lineup
1. 2B Roberto Alomar, 1992 - 6.1 fWAR, 135 wRC+
2. 1B John Olerud, 1993 - 8.1 fWAR, 179 wRC+
3. RF Jose Bautista, 2011 - 8.1 fWAR, 181 wRC+
4. DH Carlos Delgado, 2001 - 7.4 fWAR, 179 wRC+
5. 3B Josh Donaldson, 2015 - 8.7 fWAR, 154 wRC+, MVP
6. LF Jesse Barfield, 1985 - 7.0 fWAR, 142 wRC+
7. CF Lloyd Moseby, 1984 - 6.9 fWAR, 126 wRC+
8. C Russell Martin, 2015 - 4.5 fWAR, 115 wRC+
9. SS Tony Fernandez, 1990 - 4.9 fWAR, 108 wRC+

Bench
1. 1B Fred McGriff, 1988 - 6.6 fWAR, 156 wRC+
2. CF Devon White, 1991 - 6.4 fWAR, 119 wRC+
3. C Ernie Whitt, 1983 - 3.6 fWAR, 115 wRC+
4. LF George Bell, 1987 - 5.3 fWAR, 143 wRC+, MVP
5. DH Paul Molitor, 1993 - 4.8 fWAR, 144 wRC+

Rotation
1. Roger Clemens, 1997 - 10.7 fWAR, 11.9 bWAR, Cy Young, Triple Crown
2. Roy Halladay, 2003 - 7.0 fWAR, 8.1 bWAR, Cy Young
3. Dave Stieb, 1984 - 5.6 fWAR, 7.9 bWAR
4. Pat Hentgen, 1996 - 6.0 fWAR, 6.0 fWAR, Cy Young
5. Jimmy Key, 1987 - 5.6 fWAR, 7.4 fWAR

Bullpen
1. Tom Henke, 1989 - 3.5 fWAR, 3.4 bWAR
2. Duane Ward, 1991 - 4.1 fWAR, 2.7 bWAR
3. Roberto Osuna, 2017, 2.9 fWAR, 1.3 bWAR
4. Mark Eichhorn, 1986 - 4.9 fWAR, 7.3 bWAR
5. BJ Ryan, 2006 - 2.7 fWAR, 3.6 bWAR
6. Ken Giles, 2019 - 1.8 fWAR, 2.5 bWAR
7. Paul Quantrill, 1997 - 1.9 fWAR, 3.2 bWAR

Re: MLB

Posted: Tue April 28, 2020 12:43 am
by PHATJ
Thanks for playing along. The Blue Jays have had some great seasons. I’m sure some tough cuts were made. That was the hardest part for me.

Re: MLB

Posted: Tue April 28, 2020 12:44 am
by Electromatic
After reading those two rosters I’m reminded of how much I’m still pained by the 1991 and 1992 World Series.

Also it’s complete bullshit that Jim Rice is in the Hall of Fame if Fred McGriff isn’t.

Re: MLB

Posted: Tue April 28, 2020 12:46 am
by PHATJ
Electromatic wrote:After reading those two rosters I’m reminded of how much I’m still pained by the 1991 and 1992 World Series.

Also it’s complete bullshit that Jim Rice is in the Hall of Fame if Fred McGriff isn’t.
Gonna make a Braves list? That would be a strong team.

Re: MLB

Posted: Tue April 28, 2020 12:48 am
by Simple Torture
Thought of doing this, but then got real heated about the 1941 MVP race and was so angry that I couldn't continue.

Re: MLB

Posted: Tue April 28, 2020 1:11 am
by PHATJ
Simple Torture wrote:Thought of doing this, but then got real heated about the 1941 MVP race and was so angry that I couldn't continue.
:lol:

Re: MLB

Posted: Tue April 28, 2020 11:00 am
by philpritchard
PHATJ wrote:Thanks for playing along. The Blue Jays have had some great seasons. I’m sure some tough cuts were made. That was the hardest part for me.
The bullpen is the part that really blows me away, to be honest, since it includes 3-4 of the best performances ever.

That Mark Eichhorn season is absolutely insane and is probably THE best relief season of all time.

14-6 with a 1.72 ERA in 156 IP without making a single start. Finished sixth in Cy Young voting as a rookie middle reliever. That 7.3 bWAR is not a typo.

Re: MLB

Posted: Tue April 28, 2020 9:54 pm
by CopperTom
Man, WhatIf would hit the spot.

Re: MLB

Posted: Tue April 28, 2020 11:54 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
CopperTom wrote:Man, WhatIf would hit the spot.
Yeah we need lament to return and run a tourney