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Re: River Cross
Posted: Tue February 04, 2020 3:35 am
by 96583UP
Jessica Fletcher wrote:arthurdent wrote:Jessica Fletcher wrote:Clip sounded fine, the commercial was pretty cringy. I don't mean in a "how dare they do a commercial" kind of cringe, just more of a "that commercial was stupid" kind of way.
Given that Verizon was caught throttling data for firefighters fighting wildfires last year, I'd say it's really fucking cringey.
Yeah, I was unaware until I read the comments on that Stereogum link. Not a good look.
jesus. this ad was basically a coverup campaign. blame it on 4G
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/201 ... -wildfire/
"Verizon representatives confirmed the throttling, but rather than restoring us to an essential data transfer speed, they indicated that County Fire would have to switch to a new data plan at more than twice the cost, and they would only remove throttling after we contacted the Department that handles billing and switched to the new data plan," Bowden wrote.
[...]
Update: In a statement to Ars three hours after this article was published, Verizon acknowledged that it shouldn't have continued throttling the fire department's data service after the department asked Verizon to lift the throttling restrictions.
"Regardless of the plan emergency responders choose, we have a practice to remove data speed restrictions when contacted in emergency situations," Verizon's statement said. "We have done that many times, including for emergency personnel responding to these tragic fires. In this situation, we should have lifted the speed restriction when our customer reached out to us. This was a customer support mistake. We are reviewing the situation and will fix any issues going forward."
Verizon also noted that the fire department purchased a data service plan that is slowed down after a data usage threshold is reached. But Verizon said it "made a mistake" in communicating with the department about the terms of the plan.
"We made a mistake in how we communicated with our customer about the terms of its plan," Verizon said. "Like all customers, fire departments choose service plans that are best for them. This customer purchased a government contract plan for a high-speed wireless data allotment at a set monthly cost. Under this plan, users get an unlimited amount of data but speeds are reduced when they exceed their allotment until the next billing cycle."
this is worse than 'Obey the Law of the Heart'
do these guys ever do any research before they sign on for corpo shit?
wtf
Re: River Cross
Posted: Tue February 04, 2020 3:43 am
by WtOB?
pearl jam has been in bed with verizon since 2008.
Re: River Cross
Posted: Tue February 04, 2020 3:45 am
by 96583UP
sleeps just two
Re: River Cross
Posted: Tue February 04, 2020 4:08 am
by evenslow
i can't get past the first official presentation of this song, via verizon and the images within the ad, gives it a very hallmark-y type of feel, which is not at all what i got from ed's live performances of the song. luckily, all we got was a snippet, so there's obviously room for improvement, but i really hope this is way more akin to long road than future days. a lot of it comes down to production, so i guess i should feel good it ain't BOB.
Re: River Cross
Posted: Tue February 04, 2020 4:18 am
by McParadigm
WtOB? wrote:pearl jam has been in bed with verizon since 2008.
96583UP wrote:sleeps just two
This is the content that draws me to your patreon
Re: River Cross
Posted: Tue February 04, 2020 4:34 am
by PHATJ
I don’t care about any of this Verizon shit. I noticed the commercial during the SB, I’ve watched the video once since then. I thought the song sounded ok, potentially interesting, but I’m sure as fuck not judging it based on its inclusion in a SB ad. The song can be judged on its own merits and in its entirety when it is released.
Re: River Cross
Posted: Tue February 04, 2020 7:25 am
by Blenheim Augustine
Ms Harmless wrote:in the live version he seems to be singing "share the light, don't hold us down"
in this one he seems to be singing "share the light, *won't* hold us down"
the latter doesn't really make sense
Nothing for to say.
Re: River Cross
Posted: Tue February 04, 2020 8:01 am
by Ms Harmless
it sounds more "Into The Wild" than "Backspacer"
Re: River Cross
Posted: Tue February 04, 2020 3:54 pm
by sward
evenslow wrote:i can't get past the first official presentation of this song, via verizon and the images within the ad, gives it a very hallmark-y type of feel, which is not at all what i got from ed's live performances of the song. luckily, all we got was a snippet, so there's obviously room for improvement, but i really hope this is way more akin to long road than future days. a lot of it comes down to production, so i guess i should feel good it ain't BOB.
I'll hold onto the fact that Dance of the Clairvoyants sounded zero like I thought it would based upon the initial music we heard. With that said, we know - for the most part - the general idea for River Cross all the way through. But I did like what I heard.
Re: River Cross
Posted: Tue February 04, 2020 3:56 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Can we acknowledge that “River Cross” is total nonsense as a title? What does that even mean?
Re: River Cross
Posted: Tue February 04, 2020 3:57 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: River Cross
Posted: Tue February 04, 2020 3:58 pm
by LoathedVermin72
tragabigzanda wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:Can we acknowledge that “River Cross” is total nonsense as a title? What does that even mean?
pure speculation, but "You always said we'd cross that river..." makes me think that maybe he's acknowledging the he and Chris had some sort of falling out -- maybe around his divorce/remarriage -- and that they'll never get a chance to mend the split.
Okay, but, like, the actual words “River” and “Cross” in that order...that doesn’t mean anything? Like it doesn’t even make sense.
Re: River Cross
Posted: Tue February 04, 2020 3:59 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Titles that would make sense:
River Crossing
Crossing the River
Across the River
Cross the River
Re: River Cross
Posted: Tue February 04, 2020 3:59 pm
by ABNorman
Maybe it's the name of Ed's secret 90's action hero persona.
Re: River Cross
Posted: Tue February 04, 2020 4:00 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: River Cross
Posted: Tue February 04, 2020 4:06 pm
by OmegaprimeVKM
ABNorman wrote:Maybe it's the name of Ed's secret 90's action hero persona.
you reminded me:

Re: River Cross
Posted: Tue February 04, 2020 4:14 pm
by Ms Harmless
LoathedVermin72 wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:Can we acknowledge that “River Cross” is total nonsense as a title? What does that even mean?
pure speculation, but "You always said we'd cross that river..." makes me think that maybe he's acknowledging the he and Chris had some sort of falling out -- maybe around his divorce/remarriage -- and that they'll never get a chance to mend the split.
Okay, but, like, the actual words “River” and “Cross” in that order...that doesn’t mean anything? Like it doesn’t even make sense.
"river cross" is like "nature walk", "mountain hike" or even "ocean cruise"
it makes sense but uses the "noun-verb" construct to mean e.g. "the action of crossing a river" or "the time we crossed the river (set out on a river cross)"
Re: River Cross
Posted: Tue February 04, 2020 4:15 pm
by Ms Harmless
it's a bit weird but Ed always uses unnecessarily weird word constructions
Re: River Cross
Posted: Tue February 04, 2020 4:16 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Ms Harmless wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:Can we acknowledge that “River Cross” is total nonsense as a title? What does that even mean?
pure speculation, but "You always said we'd cross that river..." makes me think that maybe he's acknowledging the he and Chris had some sort of falling out -- maybe around his divorce/remarriage -- and that they'll never get a chance to mend the split.
Okay, but, like, the actual words “River” and “Cross” in that order...that doesn’t mean anything? Like it doesn’t even make sense.
"river cross" is like "nature walk", "mountain hike" or even "ocean cruise"
it makes sense but uses the "noun-verb" construct to mean e.g. "the action of crossing a river" or "the time we crossed the river (set out on a river cross)"
No it is nonsense
Re: River Cross
Posted: Tue February 04, 2020 4:29 pm
by Ms Harmless
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:Can we acknowledge that “River Cross” is total nonsense as a title? What does that even mean?
pure speculation, but "You always said we'd cross that river..." makes me think that maybe he's acknowledging the he and Chris had some sort of falling out -- maybe around his divorce/remarriage -- and that they'll never get a chance to mend the split.
Okay, but, like, the actual words “River” and “Cross” in that order...that doesn’t mean anything? Like it doesn’t even make sense.
"river cross" is like "nature walk", "mountain hike" or even "ocean cruise"
it makes sense but uses the "noun-verb" construct to mean e.g. "the action of crossing a river" or "the time we crossed the river (set out on a river cross)"
No it is nonsense
you're right, you're right, I'm just... gonna... sit... over there