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Re: Movie: Mission Impossible: Fallout (7-27-18)
Posted: Tue December 11, 2018 1:23 pm
by VinylGuy
swan wrote:Anyone that doesn’t have MI2 ranked at the bottom needs their head examined
I like Fallout a lot, but prefer Ghost Protocol for the recent ones
MI3 will always win because of PSH. His opening scene in that is the best
MI3 scene with Tom coming to rescue Russell is amazing. And Hoffman owns that movie. After the mess of the second one, it was amazing to see the franchise going that route.
Re: Movie: Mission Impossible: Fallout (7-27-18)
Posted: Tue December 11, 2018 1:30 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Movie: Mission Impossible: Fallout (7-27-18)
Posted: Tue December 11, 2018 1:49 pm
by LoathedVermin72
tragabigzanda wrote:while MI2 was awful, the Brad Bird one seemed to suffer from all the problems that LV has with the latest one
Wrong wrong wrong. There is so much soul in GP. There are stakes, there is weight, there is something real between characters. And the action is so much better, and feels rough and dangerous.
Re: Movie: Mission Impossible: Fallout (7-27-18)
Posted: Tue December 11, 2018 2:03 pm
by VinylGuy
tragabigzanda wrote:while MI2 was awful, the Brad Bird one seemed to suffer from all the problems that LV has with the latest one
yeah, i agree with that after a recent view. It also looks kinda bland. I saw it on IMAX when it came out and loved it, and i thought it lost its charm recently....maybe because the last two are in a different level not only story wise but specially in the way they are shot.
Re: Movie: Mission Impossible: Fallout (7-27-18)
Posted: Tue December 11, 2018 2:50 pm
by LoathedVermin72
McQuarrie should have stuck to the Jack Reacher franchise
Re: Movie: Mission Impossible: Fallout (7-27-18)
Posted: Tue December 11, 2018 4:01 pm
by VinylGuy
The first Reacher movie is another masterpiece. A slow burning tense thriller with Cruise in a very different role and mood. Dark, violent and intense.
He is so talented he can do these movies and then make history with the MI movies.
Fuck, his debut is another masterpiece.
Re: Movie: Mission Impossible: Fallout (7-27-18)
Posted: Tue December 11, 2018 4:13 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Jack Reacher is a perfect movie. It’s totally right for McQuarrie’s sensibilities.
Just makes his MI movies all the more frustrating for me. I think his talent is being wasted because he’s being forced into neutering himself to be “Mission.” He’s been quite open about this in interviews.
Re: Movie: Mission Impossible: Fallout (7-27-18)
Posted: Tue December 11, 2018 9:38 pm
by Rangi Guy
That first Jack Reacher movie is pretty good, but Tom Cruise makes an awful Jack Reacher
Re: Movie: Mission Impossible: Fallout (7-27-18)
Posted: Tue January 15, 2019 11:32 am
by daft twat
LoathedVermin72 wrote:McQuarrie should have stuck to the Jack Reacher franchise
He will be writing and then filming 7 and 8 back to back beginning late this year.
Re: Movie: Mission Impossible: Fallout (7-27-18)
Posted: Tue January 15, 2019 1:50 pm
by LoathedVermin72
daft twat wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:McQuarrie should have stuck to the Jack Reacher franchise
He will be writing and then filming 7 and 8 back to back beginning late this year.
Yeah I heard. Bummer.
Re: Movie: Mission Impossible: Fallout (7-27-18)
Posted: Tue January 15, 2019 9:16 pm
by B
VinylGuy wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:while MI2 was awful, the Brad Bird one seemed to suffer from all the problems that LV has with the latest one
yeah, i agree with that after a recent view. It also looks kinda bland. I saw it on IMAX when it came out and loved it, and i thought it lost its charm recently....maybe because the last two are in a different level not only story wise but specially in the way they are shot.
I never understand what's happening in any of these movies, but I enjoy them nonetheless.
Re: Movie: Mission Impossible: Fallout (7-27-18)
Posted: Wed January 16, 2019 4:02 pm
by Strat
The first one is the only great one. The rest are fun action movies.
Re: Movie: Mission Impossible: Fallout (7-27-18)
Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 4:01 am
by Strat
Strat wrote:The first one is the only great one. The rest are fun action movies.
Funny.
Im finally watching Fallout.
30 minutes into it and .....ugh.
Maybe im old? I dont know. I can still find enjoyment here. Im not above that.
BUt it just feels like a bunch of high octane action sequences, bad dialogue, magic tricks, and sexy people.
The first one felt like chess. The rest have felt like Checkers.
Re: Movie: Mission Impossible: Fallout (7-27-18)
Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:50 pm
by VinylGuy
Yeah, they changed the tone from the first one. I would say that comes back a bit in Rogue Nation.
Re: Movie: Mission Impossible: Fallout (7-27-18)
Posted: Fri December 30, 2022 10:36 am
by Ensign9
I rewatched Ghost Protocol, Rogue Nation, and Fallout this week. I had them all logged as B+'s in my original watch. GP and RN were worse than I remember; Fallout was better than I remember.
I know the whole point of the franchise, at this point, is to up the ante on stuntwork (which IS amazing) but the sloppiness of the plotting keeps them from being truly great movies. MI1 is no work of genius but there was an intellect to it they've never been able to (or cared to) match since.
Re: Movie: Mission Impossible: Fallout (7-27-18)
Posted: Fri December 30, 2022 11:29 am
by Jorge
An intellect? Did you include 1 in your rewatch? It is a very, very stupid movie. It's just quieter
Re: Movie: Mission Impossible: Fallout (7-27-18)
Posted: Sat December 31, 2022 10:38 am
by Ensign9
Jorge wrote:An intellect? Did you include 1 in your rewatch? It is a very, very stupid movie. It's just quieter
I just rewatched it tonight. I wouldn’t call it stupid but definitely not as good as I remember.
The score slaps, though.
Re: Movie: Mission Impossible: Fallout (7-27-18)
Posted: Sat December 31, 2022 12:12 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Movie: Mission Impossible: Fallout (7-27-18)
Posted: Sat December 31, 2022 9:20 pm
by Ensign9
tragabigzanda wrote:Rewatchables just did Fallout this week. Their nitpicks category was great, but my favorite one was how Ethan Hunt always saves the world, then in the next movie they’re like “No! We won’t let you do things your way anymore! You’re on a VERY short leash for this mission!“
Yeah, that trope’s gotta go for Dead Reckoning. Tiresome.
Re: Movie: Mission Impossible: Fallout (7-27-18)
Posted: Sat December 31, 2022 10:29 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
Jorge wrote:An intellect? Did you include 1 in your rewatch? It is a very, very stupid movie. It's just quieter
What are the main aspects that make you say it's very, very stupid?