Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)
Posted: Sat March 10, 2018 10:22 pm
Kaius's total lack of technical savvy is giving me flashbacks to Christmas with the in laws. Of course they are in their 70s.
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Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)
Posted: Sat March 10, 2018 10:28 pm
Who cares if 10C is "annoyed at us"
Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)
Posted: Sat March 10, 2018 10:28 pm
I think that part of the problem is that during the latter days of their career (certainly since 2006-ish), Eddie has had trouble telling stories from other people's perspectives. When you give voice to someone who's not you, you can get away with stuff that doesn't sound as interesting couched in "HEY GUYS, HERE'S WHAT I THINK."stip wrote: That's probably pretty close. The chorus lyrics need another pass but they're pretty close to being good. The verse has the Bu$hleaguer/No More problem (more the later) when Eddie feels so passionate about something so obvious that he has no artful way to phrase it.
I would describe lots of their early records are empathetic, really trying to understand how and why other people feel the way they do--not every song is like this; certainly, songs like "Alive" and "Release" come straight from the center of Ed's psyche, but you had tunes like Why Go and Deep that balanced them. Jeremy. Elderly Woman. WMA. Betterman. I can't think, off the top of my head, of a single song off the last two records (or from the era, if we want to consider non-album tracks) that struck me as coming from a similar place.
Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)
Posted: Sat March 10, 2018 10:30 pm
Kaius wrote:Help mecutuphalfdead wrote:noKaius wrote:I have to download Dropbox to use that link ?
Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)
Posted: Sat March 10, 2018 10:34 pm
The dissolution of Pearl Jam and eventual metamorphosis into Eddie And The Jams is well underway. Stone and Jeff will be out of the picture by then. Matt and Boom are maybes. Mike hangs on for dear life.Simple Torture wrote:I think that part of the problem is that during the latter days of their career (certainly since 2006-ish), Eddie has had trouble telling stories from other people's perspectives. When you give voice to someone who's not you, you can get away with stuff that doesn't sound as interesting couched in "HEY GUYS, HERE'S WHAT I THINK."stip wrote: That's probably pretty close. The chorus lyrics need another pass but they're pretty close to being good. The verse has the Bu$hleaguer/No More problem (more the later) when Eddie feels so passionate about something so obvious that he has no artful way to phrase it.
I would describe lots of their early records are empathetic, really trying to understand how and why other people feel the way they do--not every song is like this; certainly, songs like "Alive" and "Release" come straight from the center of Ed's psyche, but you had tunes like Why Go and Deep that balanced them. Jeremy. Elderly Woman. WMA. Betterman. I can't think, off the top of my head, of a single song off the last two records (or from the era, if we want to consider non-album tracks) that struck me as coming from a similar place.
Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)
Posted: Sat March 10, 2018 11:02 pm
This is good. Give me an angry Pearl Jam album.
Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)
Posted: Sat March 10, 2018 11:06 pm
Hey Ensign9. Thank you for those LOST recaps back in the dayEnsign9 wrote:This is good. Give me an angry Pearl Jam album.
Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)
Posted: Sat March 10, 2018 11:08 pm
The Argonaut wrote:Hey Ensign9. Thank you for those LOST recaps back in the dayEnsign9 wrote:This is good. Give me an angry Pearl Jam album.
Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)
Posted: Sat March 10, 2018 11:18 pm
Maybe it’s because I’m on mobile. I attempted a direct download and a black media player box pops up but it just spins and spins and spins and never begins.cutuphalfdead wrote:Kaius wrote:Help mecutuphalfdead wrote:noKaius wrote:I have to download Dropbox to use that link ?
Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)
Posted: Sat March 10, 2018 11:21 pm
Hey Jeff, welcome back.Ensign9 wrote:This is good. Give me an angry Pearl Jam album.
Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)
Posted: Sat March 10, 2018 11:21 pm
you're absolutely right, but that largely shifted around No Code, where Eddie became the central character in many statement songs. The stories became less empathetic in general (since they're about him), and Eddie has never been as interesting when he just says what he thinks. Even Alive and Release come at you from a very internal place. Much of his writing since then has been very surface. It's been a tendency that's become more and more prominent.Simple Torture wrote:I think that part of the problem is that during the latter days of their career (certainly since 2006-ish), Eddie has had trouble telling stories from other people's perspectives. When you give voice to someone who's not you, you can get away with stuff that doesn't sound as interesting couched in "HEY GUYS, HERE'S WHAT I THINK."stip wrote: That's probably pretty close. The chorus lyrics need another pass but they're pretty close to being good. The verse has the Bu$hleaguer/No More problem (more the later) when Eddie feels so passionate about something so obvious that he has no artful way to phrase it.
I would describe lots of their early records are empathetic, really trying to understand how and why other people feel the way they do--not every song is like this; certainly, songs like "Alive" and "Release" come straight from the center of Ed's psyche, but you had tunes like Why Go and Deep that balanced them. Jeremy. Elderly Woman. WMA. Betterman. I can't think, off the top of my head, of a single song off the last two records (or from the era, if we want to consider non-album tracks) that struck me as coming from a similar place.
Force of Nature is a good example of that older style from the last two albums.
Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)
Posted: Sat March 10, 2018 11:21 pm
I got stuck in “unknown account password hell” for 30 minutes trying to log in to ESPN fantasy football last nightbada wrote:Kaius's total lack of technical savvy is giving me flashbacks to Christmas with the in laws. Of course they are in their 70s.
Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)
Posted: Sat March 10, 2018 11:21 pm
Monkey_Driven wrote:Hey Jeff, welcome back.Ensign9 wrote:This is good. Give me an angry Pearl Jam album.
Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)
Posted: Sat March 10, 2018 11:27 pm
It began ok. It kept on getting worse.
Being a Pearl Jam fan for me used to be about wondering what they would come up with next, eagerly. Now it's always apprehension.
Being a Pearl Jam fan for me used to be about wondering what they would come up with next, eagerly. Now it's always apprehension.
Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)
Posted: Sat March 10, 2018 11:36 pm
I don't hate it. I can see it growing on me some with repeated listens for a better quality recording. Maybe if it pops up in their South America sets?
Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)
Posted: Sat March 10, 2018 11:40 pm
I don’t think it’s a Christmas single either. Here’s the email I got:Birds in Hell wrote:I don't know, they've never pushed Christmas singles on their Facebook/Twitter profiles in this way before. It's being presented like a proper single, not just a 10C thing.Monkey_Driven wrote:Guys, it's a Christmas single...
Better than Ole.
I also don't hear the Soundgarden/Cornell similarities at all.
That sure makes it sound like a proper single.
Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)
Posted: Sat March 10, 2018 11:41 pm
Imagine if your prediction of March 16 is true.wease wrote:I don’t think it’s a Christmas single either. Here’s the email I got:Birds in Hell wrote:I don't know, they've never pushed Christmas singles on their Facebook/Twitter profiles in this way before. It's being presented like a proper single, not just a 10C thing.Monkey_Driven wrote:Guys, it's a Christmas single...
Better than Ole.
I also don't hear the Soundgarden/Cornell similarities at all.
Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)
Posted: Sat March 10, 2018 11:42 pm
I gave it a listen and thought it was pretty good. No Immortality or Red Mosquito, but I think it reminded most thematically like something off Avocado and musically like Backspacer. When I was listening Johnny Guitar came more to mind except maybe a bit more straight forward rock. I too thought it sounded like Chris Cornell before the first chorus.
Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)
Posted: Sat March 10, 2018 11:43 pm
I don’t remember that. Wow. If so, I’m buying lottery tickets.LetMeSleep wrote:Imagine if your prediction of March 16 is true.wease wrote:I don’t think it’s a Christmas single either. Here’s the email I got:Birds in Hell wrote:I don't know, they've never pushed Christmas singles on their Facebook/Twitter profiles in this way before. It's being presented like a proper single, not just a 10C thing.Monkey_Driven wrote:Guys, it's a Christmas single...
Better than Ole.
I also don't hear the Soundgarden/Cornell similarities at all.
Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)
Posted: Sat March 10, 2018 11:44 pm
The Argonaut wrote:Hey Ensign9. Thank you for those LOST recaps back in the dayEnsign9 wrote:This is good. Give me an angry Pearl Jam album.
