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Re: Rank the first singles.

Posted: Sat November 30, 2024 7:20 pm
by Tj
Ok I think this requires 2 list . List how I rank them at time of release, and how feel about them now in comparison to the rest of the catalog.

Time of Release

1. Alive
2.Dance of the Clairvoyants
3. Nothing as it Seams
4.Given to Fly
5.I am Mine
6.Spin The Black
7.Who You Are
8. Go
9. Mind Your Manners
10.Dark Matter
11. WWS
12.the fixer

Now
1. GTF
2.Alive
3.Nothing As it Seams
4. DOTC
5.Go
6.Who you Are
7.I am Mine
8.Spin the Black
9.Dark Matter
10.Mind your Manner
11.The Fixer
12 WWS

Re: Rank the first singles.

Posted: Sun December 01, 2024 10:48 pm
by MattA75
Given to Fly
Go
Alive
I Am Mine
Dark Matter
Who You Are
DOTC
Nothing as it Seems
Spin the Black Circle
World Wide Suicide
Mind Your Manners
The Fixer

Re: Rank the first singles.

Posted: Mon December 02, 2024 1:01 am
by B
Alive
Spin the Black Circle
Go
Given to Fly
Nothing As It Seems
Dark Matter
Dance of the Clairvoyants
Mind Your Manners
World Wide Suicide
I Am Mine
The Fixer
Who You Are

Re: Rank the first singles.

Posted: Mon December 02, 2024 1:39 am
by stip
Hmmmm, I like how tj did this. lets see

Currently (with caveat i like all these songs)

Alive
Dance
Mind Your Manners
Go
Dark Matter
I Am Mine
World Wide Suicide
Given to Fly
The Fixer
Nothing As It Seems
Spin the Black Circle
Who You Are

4-9 you could probably flip a coin. Very close


But in terms of how much I loved it at the time of release

World Wide Suicide
Dance
Mind Your Manners
Given To Fly
Go
The Fixer
I Am Mine
Dark Matter
Alive (released before i discovered the band but was not early favorite)
STBC
Nothing As It Seems
Who You Are

Re: Rank the first singles.

Posted: Mon December 02, 2024 9:52 am
by Tj
stip wrote:Hmmmm, I like how tj did this. lets see

Currently (with caveat i like all these songs)

Alive
Dance
Mind Your Manners
Go
Dark Matter
I Am Mine
World Wide Suicide
Given to Fly
The Fixer
Nothing As It Seems
Spin the Black Circle
Who You Are

4-9 you could probably flip a coin. Very close


But in terms of how much I loved it at the time of release

World Wide Suicide
Dance
Mind Your Manners
Given To Fly
Go
The Fixer
I Am Mine
Dark Matter
Alive (released before i discovered the band but was not early favorite)
STBC
Nothing As It Seems
Who You Are
Interesting how Alive at some point climbed to the top. I've always loved it, and it is a top 10 song for me. I'm not sure exactly why isn't number 1 . I would not be surprised if gets there someday.
It maybe that if you asked 100 people at a Creed concert or just random genxers . I'm talking about fans of rock alternative rock etc what their favorite PJ song is Alive would win out going away. I think in someways I needed my own secret world of Pearl Jam . The greatness of the Band isn't in their singles but in there rich catalog of tracks that only their true fans know. It makes me eager in away to dismiss their early hits . Then a strange thing happens and I actually listen to a EvenFlow or Betterman and the light bulb goes off. Oh that is a incredible song. Ten is a incredible album.

Re: Rank the first singles.

Posted: Mon December 02, 2024 12:12 pm
by B
I have a hard time remembering 1991-2001. Im ranking once.

Re: Rank the first singles.

Posted: Mon December 02, 2024 5:09 pm
by stip
and then not telling anyone?

Re: Rank the first singles.

Posted: Mon December 02, 2024 5:11 pm
by stip
Tj wrote:
stip wrote:Hmmmm, I like how tj did this. lets see

Currently (with caveat i like all these songs)

Alive
Dance
Mind Your Manners
Go
Dark Matter
I Am Mine
World Wide Suicide
Given to Fly
The Fixer
Nothing As It Seems
Spin the Black Circle
Who You Are

4-9 you could probably flip a coin. Very close


But in terms of how much I loved it at the time of release

World Wide Suicide
Dance
Mind Your Manners
Given To Fly
Go
The Fixer
I Am Mine
Dark Matter
Alive (released before i discovered the band but was not early favorite)
STBC
Nothing As It Seems
Who You Are
Interesting how Alive at some point climbed to the top. I've always loved it, and it is a top 10 song for me. I'm not sure exactly why isn't number 1 . I would not be surprised if gets there someday.
It maybe that if you asked 100 people at a Creed concert or just random genxers . I'm talking about fans of rock alternative rock etc what their favorite PJ song is Alive would win out going away. I think in someways I needed my own secret world of Pearl Jam . The greatness of the Band isn't in their singles but in there rich catalog of tracks that only their true fans know. It makes me eager in away to dismiss their early hits . Then a strange thing happens and I actually listen to a EvenFlow or Betterman and the light bulb goes off. Oh that is a incredible song. Ten is a incredible album.
It was a combination of two things for me. One was a few incredible live performances during the 03 tour that really unlocked how the meaning of the song had changed and evolved. The other was the RVM BoB remix that made everything sound just a little more sharp and purposeful. And that was enough. Just a little nudge and suddenly it all refocused in a way that transformed Alive into my favorite song by any band (Find the River by REM is number 2)

Re: Rank the first singles.

Posted: Mon December 02, 2024 7:57 pm
by Tj
stip wrote:
Tj wrote:
stip wrote:Hmmmm, I like how tj did this. lets see

Currently (with caveat i like all these songs)

Alive
Dance
Mind Your Manners
Go
Dark Matter
I Am Mine
World Wide Suicide
Given to Fly
The Fixer
Nothing As It Seems
Spin the Black Circle
Who You Are

4-9 you could probably flip a coin. Very close


But in terms of how much I loved it at the time of release

World Wide Suicide
Dance
Mind Your Manners
Given To Fly
Go
The Fixer
I Am Mine
Dark Matter
Alive (released before i discovered the band but was not early favorite)
STBC
Nothing As It Seems
Who You Are
Interesting how Alive at some point climbed to the top. I've always loved it, and it is a top 10 song for me. I'm not sure exactly why isn't number 1 . I would not be surprised if gets there someday.
It maybe that if you asked 100 people at a Creed concert or just random genxers . I'm talking about fans of rock alternative rock etc what their favorite PJ song is Alive would win out going away. I think in someways I needed my own secret world of Pearl Jam . The greatness of the Band isn't in their singles but in there rich catalog of tracks that only their true fans know. It makes me eager in away to dismiss their early hits . Then a strange thing happens and I actually listen to a EvenFlow or Betterman and the light bulb goes off. Oh that is a incredible song. Ten is a incredible album.
It was a combination of two things for me. One was a few incredible live performances during the 03 tour that really unlocked how the meaning of the song had changed and evolved. The other was the RVM BoB remix that made everything sound just a little more sharp and purposeful. And that was enough. Just a little nudge and suddenly it all refocused in a way that transformed Alive into my favorite song by any band (Find the River by REM is number 2)
Ok cool like REM, but wouldn't call myself a fan. I have heard anything other than radio hits. So I'm looking forward to checking that song out.

Re: Rank the first singles.

Posted: Mon December 02, 2024 9:34 pm
by B
stip wrote:and then not telling anyone?
Classic B, dickhead.

Re: Rank the first singles.

Posted: Tue December 03, 2024 1:45 am
by B
I'm sorry I called you a dickhead, stip. :cry:

Re: Rank the first singles.

Posted: Wed December 04, 2024 12:24 am
by stip
B wrote:I'm sorry I called you a dickhead, stip. :cry:
Classic B

Re: Rank the first singles.

Posted: Wed December 04, 2024 7:40 am
by Matters
Go
Alive
GTF
STBC

DOTC
I am Mine

The Fixer
MYM

WWS
DM

NAIS
WYA

Re: Rank the first singles.

Posted: Wed December 04, 2024 1:53 pm
by stip
by far my favorite upon first listen was WWS

Re: Rank the first singles.

Posted: Wed December 04, 2024 9:14 pm
by Matters
B wrote:I'm sorry I called you a dickhead, stip.
This should be the next book title.

Re: Rank the first singles.

Posted: Wed December 04, 2024 9:17 pm
by guitar_davey
Alive
Given to Fly
DOTC
Dark Matter
Go
I Am Mine
Nothing as it Seems
World Wide Suicide
Mind Your Manners
Spin the Black Circle
The Fixer
Who You Are

Re: Rank the first singles.

Posted: Wed December 04, 2024 9:21 pm
by Matters
Best attempt at what I would’ve chosen for first singles:

Even Flow
RVM
Corduroy
Hail, Hail
GTF
Letter to the Dead
I am Mine
WWS
The Fixer
Lightning Bolt
DOTC
Wreckage

Re: Rank the first singles.

Posted: Sun December 15, 2024 12:22 am
by sweeper
It'd be interesting to rank the list based purely on how well they did at picking the right song relative to the options they had for an album. For instance, STBC would probably be the worst first single for me given that they had Corduroy or Better Man as clear great options. On the flip side, I think they nailed Yield by picking Given to Fly.

Re: Rank the first singles.

Posted: Mon December 16, 2024 9:36 am
by Got Some
Alive
Go
Given To Fly
Dance of the clairvoyants
Nothing as it seems
Spin the black circles
I am mine
Dark matter
Who you are
WWS
The Fixer
Mind Your Manners

Re: Rank the first singles.

Posted: Mon December 16, 2024 6:01 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Go
Spin the Black Circle
Nothing as It Seems
Alive
Who You Are
Given to Fly
I am Mine
Dance of the Clairvoyants
Dark Matter
The Fixer
World Wide Suicide
Mind Your Manners