Red Mosquito

I don't really see how Kanye's behavior can be described as anything but douchey and disrespectful. I don't listen to Beck, Kanye or Beyonce so I don't really care, but how is he not being a petulant child?

tommymtcom wrote:I don't really see how Kanye's behavior can be described as anything but douchey and disrespectful. I don't listen to Beck, Kanye or Beyonce so I don't really care, but how is he not being a petulant child?

Agreed. He's the kid we all hated on the playground. Writing catchy songs doesn't give him a hall pass.

saying Beyonce is more of an artist than Beck is fucking stupid, and kinda shitty to both of them. If he was shitting on Myley Cyrus I'd be cheering, but Beck? Don't be an idiot, Lament.

That said, he's a smart guy. I can't imagine he really thinks a grammy means anything, right? Surely not. I mean, from what I've heard he doesn't even care about his own awards and seems pretty cool when he wins one.

BurtReynolds wrote:saying Beyonce is more of an artist than Beck is fucking stupid, and kinda shitty to both of them. If he was shitting on Myley Cyrus I'd be cheering, but Beck? Don't be an idiot, Lament.

How am I being an idiot? Did you read what I actually wrote?

Lament wrote:If someone else would have won that Grammy and Beck would have said exactly what Kanye said, all of the same people trashing Kanye would be gushing over how brave Beck is and how much they agree with him.

If you honestly don't think people would be praising Beck had he complained about "real artists" not being recognized then your head is just up your own ass.

Honestly, 99% of the things that people bitch about Kanye doing are things that a white dude with a guitar would be praised for.

The thing is Beck would (probably) never say that in the first place.

Lament wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:saying Beyonce is more of an artist than Beck is fucking stupid, and kinda shitty to both of them. If he was shitting on Myley Cyrus I'd be cheering, but Beck? Don't be an idiot, Lament.

How am I being an idiot? Did you read what I actually wrote?

Lament wrote:If someone else would have won that Grammy and Beck would have said exactly what Kanye said, all of the same people trashing Kanye would be gushing over how brave Beck is and how much they agree with him.

If you honestly don't think people would be praising Beck had he complained about "real artists" not being recognized then your head is just up your own ass.

Honestly, 99% of the things that people bitch about Kanye doing are things that a white dude with a guitar would be praised for.

If Macklemore jumped on stage and said the same shit, you don't think the response would be exactly the same? Your head is up your ass.

If you are gonna complain about real artists not being recognized, you should probably hold off on that when a real artist is actually being recognized (like Beck was).

BurtReynolds wrote:If Macklemore jumped on stage and said the same shit, you don't think the response would be exactly the same? Your head is up your ass.

There is not a chance in fucking hell the response would be the same and you know it.

i've ran the simulations, brah.

i'm starting to realize my avatar is really not helping my argument. I'm beginning to regret my heel turn.

lament's wrong on this one. it isn't a black/white issue or real artist issue, it's a respect issue. don't steal someone else's spotlight.

hey guys what do you think of kanye west's public persona?

It helps him sell more stuff.

every one of his albums have been great. also, when celebrities do crazy stuff, i always love it, regardless of whether it crosses the bounds of good taste. in other words, i generally support anything kanye does.

Pleeeeeeaaaaassseee somebody invite Kanye to the Oscars pllleeeeeaaaassseee

I've called Kanye an asshole for his outbursts before, but I don't understand the outcry over this particular episode. He kinda went onstage for a second and then sat back down. Or is it his comments that are getting people upset?

I like that tweet.

I don't have a problem whatsoever with Kanye's (or any artists for that matter) hoopla. I just think he is a Beyoncé/Jay Z homer and now he has disrespected two innocent (and deserving) artists in their name. Kind of an asshole move.

Who cares though. He probably helped Swift sell more shit then and this will likely help Beck sell more shit as well so everyone wins.

Except Burt. Sorry Burt.

theplatypus wrote:I've called Kanye an asshole for his outbursts before, but I don't understand the outcry over this particular episode. He kinda went onstage for a second and then sat back down. Or is it his comments that are getting people upset?

Surely it's the delusional comments. Him going on stage was just plain funny.

Mostly i think its just what people do now: get outraged at shit. Plus he already did it once.

i generally agree with Alex, but implying Beck sucks kinda pisses me off!

Rangi Guy wrote:

Lament wrote:If someone else would have won that Grammy and Beck would have said exactly what Kanye said, all of the same people trashing Kanye would be gushing over how brave Beck is and how much they agree with him.

Nope

No fucking way. We'd be saying how much of a weirdo idiot Beck is. And that it kind of makes sense, considering the whole Scientology thing.