Red Mosquito

Mickey wrote:What I do find instructively problematic about this show (other than the laughably slapstick invocations of Lenin or whatever) is how the creator has to keep getting on Twitter to explain to people that this is not a pro-US/anti-Russia show and that all the denialism of the Soviet bureaucracy is supposed to operate as a mirror for Trump/GOP climate denialism/alternative facts/etc. It's such a well-meaning liberal impulse to think that art can operate as a didactic reflector, but none of the Bi_3s of the world watching this are going to rethink their stance on climate change because of this show.

digster wrote:

Mickey wrote:What I do find instructively problematic about this show (other than the laughably slapstick invocations of Lenin or whatever) is how the creator has to keep getting on Twitter to explain to people that this is not a pro-US/anti-Russia show and that all the denialism of the Soviet bureaucracy is supposed to operate as a mirror for Trump/GOP climate denialism/alternative facts/etc. It's such a well-meaning liberal impulse to think that art can operate as a didactic reflector, but none of the Bi_3s of the world watching this are going to rethink their stance on climate change because of this show.

Don't know for sure, but I feel that it's possible that a lot of it is pushback on people who are viewing/framing the show in this fashion. I've certainly seen people tweeting that have taken that perspective on it.

Biff Pocoroba wrote:HBO hasn't put the episodes all On Demand but they're running the series next weekend. I'll have to add to my dvr so I can watch them the following week.

Mickey wrote:What I do find instructively problematic about this show (other than the laughably slapstick invocations of Lenin or whatever) is how the creator has to keep getting on Twitter to explain to people that this is not a pro-US/anti-Russia show and that all the denialism of the Soviet bureaucracy is supposed to operate as a mirror for Trump/GOP climate denialism/alternative facts/etc. It's such a well-meaning liberal impulse to think that art can operate as a didactic reflector, but none of the Bi_3s of the world watching this are going to rethink their stance on climate change because of this show.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:I dont really care bout this one, and everyone is like fuuuuck dude you havent seen Chernobyl ???? why??

Its getting tiresome.

Have you watched it yet? If nothing else, the set designs are some of the best I've ever seen. The scale of what they've brought to the screen is really something else.

tragabigzanda wrote:Ep 4 is brutal.

We’ve settled into a steady beer-and-chaser routine of Chernobyl/Conan Without Borders.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.