Re: Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood
Posted: Thu August 15, 2019 9:25 pm
My expectations have been subverted.
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Team Trag on the Bruce Lee bit.tragabigzanda wrote:Joe’s whole review stinks, but the “hollow” part is the worst part. This movie was a heart-filled love letter to a bygone era. Tarantino’s never been so full of emotion.
And the outcry over the Bruce lee scene is asinine. He made those funny sounds all the time, he carried himself with arrogant bravado on a regular basis, and he did talk about beating up Muhammad Ali. Pitt’s getting some shots in established his character as a badass withtout in any way besmirching Lee or Asian people.
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Yeah, but it's a love letter from an entited 14 year old boy who thinks it's romantic to stalk a girl for years before finally shoving the letter into her locker while she's in gym class on the last day of school, then turn around and call her his girlfriend all summer.tragabigzanda wrote:Joe’s whole review stinks, but the “hollow” part is the worst part. This movie was a heart-filled love letter to a bygone era. Tarantino’s never been so full of emotion.
And you're obviously responding to something outside what I said. Having read zero reviews/discussions about this movie (including any in this thread) I'm not comfortable debating it. I'm only going off my own thoughts, not some mass "outcry."tragabigzanda wrote:And the outcry over the Bruce lee scene is asinine. He made those funny sounds all the time, he carried himself with arrogant bravado on a regular basis, and he did talk about beating up Muhammad Ali. Pitt’s getting some shots in established his character as a badass withtout in any way besmirching Lee or Asian people.
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
I didn't pick up on that. To me it looked like she approached everyone with open arms, love and kindness, even the man who would ultimately be responsible for her demise.durdencommatyler wrote:It's a great scene. But that's it. Sharon Tate isn't even a character in the film. Margot Robbie is probably the best actor in the cast (at least 2nd best) and QT gives her next to nothing to do. He even takes a brief moment to imply that Sharon Tate could have had a thing for Manson. Thank god he got bored of that idea as quickly as all his other ideas in this thing. That could have been stip icky.
There's even a Steve McQeen monologue above it.tree_ wrote:I didn't pick up on that. To me it looked like she approached everyone with open arms, love and kindness, even the man who would ultimately be responsible for her demise.durdencommatyler wrote:It's a great scene. But that's it. Sharon Tate isn't even a character in the film. Margot Robbie is probably the best actor in the cast (at least 2nd best) and QT gives her next to nothing to do. He even takes a brief moment to imply that Sharon Tate could have had a thing for Manson. Thank god he got bored of that idea as quickly as all his other ideas in this thing. That could have been stip icky.