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Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread

Posted: Fri April 17, 2020 1:42 am
by wease
verb_to_trust wrote:
wease wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:Why I Hate This Album did an episode recently on Van Halen III. It was hilarious.They really destroyed it. MA only played bass on 4 of those songs.
I don't think I've ever listened to it all the way through.
Have you ever listened to How Many Say I?
Is that the one Ed sings?

Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread

Posted: Fri April 17, 2020 3:33 am
by verb_to_trust
wease wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
wease wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:Why I Hate This Album did an episode recently on Van Halen III. It was hilarious.They really destroyed it. MA only played bass on 4 of those songs.
I don't think I've ever listened to it all the way through.
Have you ever listened to How Many Say I?
Is that the one Ed sings?
You could call it that

Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread

Posted: Fri April 17, 2020 11:38 am
by wease
verb_to_trust wrote:
wease wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
wease wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:Why I Hate This Album did an episode recently on Van Halen III. It was hilarious.They really destroyed it. MA only played bass on 4 of those songs.
I don't think I've ever listened to it all the way through.
Have you ever listened to How Many Say I?
Is that the one Ed sings?
You could call it that
Yeah, I couldn’t make it thru to the end.

Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread

Posted: Fri April 17, 2020 4:42 pm
by verb_to_trust
How many , how many, say IIIIIIIIII

Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread

Posted: Fri April 17, 2020 6:41 pm
by wease
I take it you DID make it all the way thru.

Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread

Posted: Fri April 17, 2020 8:07 pm
by bada
Coronavirus got me back into playing guitar. I learned Panama today. Well I learned the parts I can't make it all the way through without messing up 50 times.

Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread

Posted: Fri April 17, 2020 8:21 pm
by darth_vedder
I love me some Van Halen. Glad to see some Diver Down talk, I've always liked that album too and Little Guitars is fantastic. Way back when, I snagged the debut and Diver Down cassettes from my sister and that was my intro to Van Halen, along with 1984 (those songs were on MTV all the time). I don't really love VH, but I associate them a lot with my childhood and have strong nostalgic feelings for them.

For the Dave material, my rankings would be:
VH II
Women & Children First
VH
1984
Fair Warning
Diver Down

What are RM's thoughts on Van Hagar? I actually think if you combine some tunes from the first two Hagar albums, you can have a solid album.

Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread

Posted: Fri April 17, 2020 8:44 pm
by wease
darth_vedder wrote:I love me some Van Halen. Glad to see some Diver Down talk, I've always liked that album too and Little Guitars is fantastic. Way back when, I snagged the debut and Diver Down cassettes from my sister and that was my intro to Van Halen, along with 1984 (those songs were on MTV all the time). I don't really love VH, but I associate them a lot with my childhood and have strong nostalgic feelings for them.

For the Dave material, my rankings would be:
VH II
Women & Children First
VH
1984
Fair Warning
Diver Down

What are RM's thoughts on Van Hagar? I actually think if you combine some tunes from the first two Hagar albums, you can have a solid album.
I love all the Sam stuff up to Balance. Way overproduced and the songs just aren’t there.

Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread

Posted: Fri April 17, 2020 9:16 pm
by liebzz
wease wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:I love me some Van Halen. Glad to see some Diver Down talk, I've always liked that album too and Little Guitars is fantastic. Way back when, I snagged the debut and Diver Down cassettes from my sister and that was my intro to Van Halen, along with 1984 (those songs were on MTV all the time). I don't really love VH, but I associate them a lot with my childhood and have strong nostalgic feelings for them.

For the Dave material, my rankings would be:
VH II
Women & Children First
VH
1984
Fair Warning
Diver Down

What are RM's thoughts on Van Hagar? I actually think if you combine some tunes from the first two Hagar albums, you can have a solid album.
I love all the Sam stuff up to Balance. Way overproduced and the songs just aren’t there.
I think For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge has some good stuff on it otherwise I am not a fan. The Dave stuff doesn’t take itself too seriously which I think lends this sort of atmosphere that doesn’t age as poorly as largely sappy love songs that got eaten up in the 80s age of excess. I agree with the prior post on Balance, which I thought was pretty good at the time but lacked the maturity to understand that playing many notes quickly is not the same as good.

Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread

Posted: Fri April 17, 2020 10:15 pm
by verb_to_trust
darth_vedder wrote:I love me some Van Halen. Glad to see some Diver Down talk, I've always liked that album too and Little Guitars is fantastic. Way back when, I snagged the debut and Diver Down cassettes from my sister and that was my intro to Van Halen, along with 1984 (those songs were on MTV all the time). I don't really love VH, but I associate them a lot with my childhood and have strong nostalgic feelings for them.

For the Dave material, my rankings would be:
VH II
Women & Children First
VH
1984
Fair Warning
Diver Down

What are RM's thoughts on Van Hagar? I actually think if you combine some tunes from the first two Hagar albums, you can have a solid album.
The Hagar stuff just sounds more dated. Although the keyboard tunes from the Dave years do too. Dreams for example I can almost laugh at for how corny the synth is. Hagar songs like Poundcake, Runaround, Finish What You Started, 5150 ect. are all pretty good though. That era of the band would have aged better with a more consistent rock sound as the approach but Eddie wrote Jump and that was that going forward. All the albums had to have the lame keyboard pop songs. I will say Right Now I always thought was cool.

Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread

Posted: Fri April 17, 2020 11:59 pm
by i got bugs
darth_vedder wrote: What are RM's thoughts on Van Hagar?
5150 is the best VH song

Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread

Posted: Sat April 18, 2020 12:46 am
by verb_to_trust
i got bugs wrote:
darth_vedder wrote: What are RM's thoughts on Van Hagar?
5150 is the best VH song

"Always one more, you're never satisfied"

Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread

Posted: Sat April 18, 2020 2:27 pm
by bada
Dave Years:
1984
Fair Warning
Women & Children First
VH
VH II
Diver Down

1984 was the first VH album I owned. I think it's pretty much a perfect rock album. The first three Sammy albums are great. 5150 is probably my second favorite VH album. I think '84-'86 was the peak for all those guys including Dave's first solo album. After For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge and Live Right Here, Right Now they probably should have put out that Greatest Hits album and called it a day.

Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread

Posted: Sat April 18, 2020 2:55 pm
by wease
bada wrote:After For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge and Live Right Here, Right Now they probably should have put out that Greatest Hits album and called it a day.
Agreed

Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread

Posted: Sat April 18, 2020 3:01 pm
by wease
Dave years:
Fair Warning
Women & Children First
1984
VH II
Diver Down
VH

Sammy years:
FUCK
5150
OU812
Balance

Overall:
Fair Warning
FUCK
Women & Children First
1984
5150
OU812
VH II
Diver Down
VH
Balance


With Balance being so far below everything else, it should have never been recorded. I would honestly put that last album with Dave above it. Far above it.

Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread

Posted: Sat April 18, 2020 5:41 pm
by verb_to_trust
wease wrote:
bada wrote:After For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge and Live Right Here, Right Now they probably should have put out that Greatest Hits album and called it a day.
Agreed
Balance had some decent songs. Aftershock comes to mind. It's absolutely better than Diver Down

Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread

Posted: Sun April 26, 2020 8:10 am
by verb_to_trust

Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread

Posted: Sun April 26, 2020 10:33 am
by wease
You’d go crazy too if you were slicing pieces from your tongue and eating them.

Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread

Posted: Sun April 26, 2020 4:43 pm
by verb_to_trust
Wait, what?

Re: Come On Dave, Gimme a Break - The Van Halen Thread

Posted: Sun April 26, 2020 5:40 pm
by wease
Back around that same time, give or take, he had been diagnosed with some sort of oral cancer. He had said at the time that he beat the cancer by having slices taken off his tongue then eating them. Of course now he has throat cancer so who knows what he’s doing for that.