Red Mosquito

Love this, gave it 5 stars for the time being but again this is one that might settle at 4.5 eventually because I do think they could have fleshed this out a bit more. Nothing on it that I don't like though.

evenslow wrote:you guys really think about lyrics too much.

I don't find myself "thinking" about them so much as I find myself just responding to them when they call out for attention, which seems fair, doesn't it? They're as much a part of the song as anything else, right? In some cases, some could argue they're even a deliberate focal point?

Either way, I think this song is another "Pendulum" for me -- I like the sonic space it carves out but I find the song itself kinda falls flat, and Jeff's lyrics really are abysmal.

I think I understand how Stip feels about "In Hiding" now.

Jeff's lyrics are minimal and spiritual, but not abysmal imo

This is the one that forced me to abandon the "no leak" club. When I first heard the IG snippet I thought "that sounds like a game changer!"

Ms Harmless wrote:Jeff's lyrics are minimal and spiritual, but not abysmal imo

I just think they're badly written and trite.

Should your living truth die
Could be an acid trip

If you tire of the game
Hit the road towards the clouds
Find the groove in the sound

It’s alright to turn it off
Ignore the rules of the state

I don't agree with Stip that Jeff is a bad lyricist across the board (I like his writing on Yield and Binaural), but sometimes he seems really aesthetically tone-deaf.

Kevin Davis wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:Jeff's lyrics are minimal and spiritual, but not abysmal imo

I just think they're badly written and trite.

Should your living truth die
Could be an acid trip

If you tire of the game
Hit the road towards the clouds
Find the groove in the sound

It’s alright to turn it off
Ignore the rules of the state

I don't agree with Stip that Jeff is a bad lyricist across the board (I like his writing on Yield and Binaural), but sometimes he seems really aesthetically tone-deaf.

see, I like those lyrics

brains and the ways they interpret what they hear, it's weird; I see these as fragmentary and non-linear; profundity offered by a dumb skaterboy, OK, but each line a little parcel of its own that opens up and touches a part of who I am and what I've been through

Kevin Davis wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:Jeff's lyrics are minimal and spiritual, but not abysmal imo

I just think they're badly written and trite.

Should your living truth die
Could be an acid trip

If you tire of the game
Hit the road towards the clouds
Find the groove in the sound

It’s alright to turn it off
Ignore the rules of the state

I don't agree with Stip that Jeff is a bad lyricist across the board (I like his writing on Yield and Binaural), but sometimes he seems really aesthetically tone-deaf.

I do like NAIS, actually. That might be the only one, though. Actually my issues with Gods Dice probably aren't the lyrics, either.

The lyrics definitely don't do this song any favors, but the mood and feel is so powerful it doesn't matter. Buckle Up's lyrics, oddball as they are, probably enhance that one. It's drowning in Stone's sensibility, and Eddie's lyrics aren't quirky enough for that song.

in the sense that these lyrics are "I give you permission to take 5 minutes to relax, go on, you're not disappointing anyone I promise" (and some of us really fucking need that, even if total relaxation is impossible at this stage), this is "All Those Yesterdays" part 2; the lyrics aren't worse, they're just far more condensed and metaphorical

This song feels like an REM song from Up or Reveal.

Alright has a nice build up and I love the melody. I have no clue why this song gives me an old Western vibe especially with that chorus.

Gigalogy84 wrote:Alright has a nice build up and I love the melody. I have no clue why this song gives me an old Western vibe especially with that chorus.

I can hear that, the tempo and ambience and percussion carries a little "The Good, The Bad and the Ugly" in the air

BoltofLightning wrote:This song feels like an REM song from Up or Reveal.

I ca hear that

Ms Harmless wrote:

Gigalogy84 wrote:Alright has a nice build up and I love the melody. I have no clue why this song gives me an old Western vibe especially with that chorus.

I can hear that, the tempo and ambience and percussion carries a little "The Good, The Bad and the Ugly" in the air

Yep I feel like I should be with a group of friends huddled around a fire in a desert at night.

Gigalogy84 wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Gigalogy84 wrote:Alright has a nice build up and I love the melody. I have no clue why this song gives me an old Western vibe especially with that chorus.

I can hear that, the tempo and ambience and percussion carries a little "The Good, The Bad and the Ugly" in the air

Yep I feel like I should be with a group of friends huddled around a fire in a desert at night.

that would be the ticket!

stip wrote:

BoltofLightning wrote:This song feels like an REM song from Up or Reveal.

I ca hear that

I ca hear that too.

Alright (Unabomber's Anthem)

Ms Harmless wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:Jeff's lyrics are minimal and spiritual, but not abysmal imo

I just think they're badly written and trite.

Should your living truth die
Could be an acid trip

If you tire of the game
Hit the road towards the clouds
Find the groove in the sound

It’s alright to turn it off
Ignore the rules of the state

I don't agree with Stip that Jeff is a bad lyricist across the board (I like his writing on Yield and Binaural), but sometimes he seems really aesthetically tone-deaf.

see, I like those lyrics

brains and the ways they interpret what they hear, it's weird; I see these as fragmentary and non-linear; profundity offered by a dumb skaterboy, OK, but each line a little parcel of its own that opens up and touches a part of who I am and what I've been through

Same. Of course I'm not judging them from some objective standard (not something I care for tbh) but from a very personal standpoint, those lyrics hit home for me.

I haven't even thought about the lyrics yet, the song just sounds amazing. The kalimba intro coming out of quick escape is one of the best moments of the album.

I had trouble with this one initially, getting better and better with each listen

I like it musically. I would have liked this just to be instrumental to essentially to divide the album in to halves.