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Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Thu June 04, 2020 2:13 pm
by macphisto
B wrote:"Ignorant ghetto lady"? What kind of racist, white-supremacist websites are you combing through, macphisto. :shake:
I was just looking for some new flag decals at rednecktrucks.com

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Thu June 04, 2020 2:15 pm
by wease
Goddammit, Joey.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Thu June 04, 2020 2:19 pm
by elliseamos
durdencommatyler wrote:
wease wrote:
PHATJ wrote:“Black people can’t be racist”
Who here has said that?
I'll say it.

"Given that racism can only exist when one group has power and influence over another" [...] claims of Black people being racist often lacks the conversation about the necessity for being able to exercise power and authority, which are essential components of racism."

[...]

"There is also a big difference between prejudice and racism. Black people can be prejudice but they cannot be racist since they hold little power to enforce discrimination against another group.
As stated by Sobantu Mzwakali in his piece entitled Black people can’t be racist:
Prejudice refers to a positive or negative evaluation of another person based on their perceived group membership. Racism on the other hand refers to social actions, practices or beliefs or political systems that consider different races to be ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other. Furthermore, racism is socio-economic, with systemic structures which promote one race’s powers over another. Socio-economic being the operative word, I am certain you will agree that black people do not have the resources to impose such oppressive structures which enforce their superiority. White people on the other hand have, and had imposed them on blacks for over four centuries of slavery and colonialism. Black people can be prejudiced, but not racist.
”Black people are not excused from being prejudice towards other groups. This can include being transphobic, homophobic, xenophobic, and a slew of other discriminatory actions that accuse another group as being less than Black people. However, Black people cannot properly enforce these discriminations to systematically reduce the power or influence of said discriminated group. The ability to enforce your discriminations and prejudices in such a way that leads to power structures where you can ensure a race is inferior to you is racism."
worth carrying over to this page.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Thu June 04, 2020 2:37 pm
by McParadigm
“Black people can be racist too” is just a way of pulling the conversation away from the actual victimization by making the concept the debate. If you can blur that concept enough, you can claim some measure of victimhood on your end, which is always the goal.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Thu June 04, 2020 2:56 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Thu June 04, 2020 3:04 pm
by Simple Torture
Someone come get Scott Adams:

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Thu June 04, 2020 3:22 pm
by wease
Thanks for sharing that, Joe. I'd never really stopped to think about it and have always used racist and prejudiced interchangeably. I appreciate it.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Thu June 04, 2020 3:57 pm
by epilogue
macphisto wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Macphisto, take down the video.

Anyone who quoted the video, please edit your response too take out the video.

If you guys don't do it on your own, I'll take it down for you.
Really? The video may have an inelegantly worded title, but I found it interesting. It sparked discussion, and this is a discussion board. Is there to be no diversity of thought here?
Diversity of thought is not the issue

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Thu June 04, 2020 3:58 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:
McParadigm wrote:“Black people can be racist too” is just a way of pulling the conversation away from the actual victimization by making the concept the debate. If you can blur that concept enough, you can claim some measure of victimhood on your end, which is always the goal.
:thumbsup:

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Thu June 04, 2020 3:59 pm
by epilogue
wease wrote:Thanks for sharing that, Joe. I'd never really stopped to think about it and have always used racist and prejudiced interchangeably. I appreciate it.
:thumbsup:

Thanks for reading it and thinking about it instead of just dismissing.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Thu June 04, 2020 4:05 pm
by VinylGuy
yeah, that was a cool read.

I think prejudice is kinda inherent to the human being though. While i get why black people cant be racist i wonder how that applies with other folks from different countries.

Lets say a wealthy black dude talks shit about some chinese guy. Or some mexican. Isnt it that racism too?

In case anyone is offended, im truly asking your thoughts.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Thu June 04, 2020 5:11 pm
by doug rr
bill barr needs to stfu....he will never get it...he can't even say white supremacist out loud

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Thu June 04, 2020 5:36 pm
by wease
doug rr wrote:bill barr needs to stfu....he will never get it...he can't even say white supremacist out loud
What's he said now?

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Thu June 04, 2020 5:40 pm
by wease
VinylGuy wrote:yeah, that was a cool read.

I think prejudice is kinda inherent to the human being though. While i get why black people cant be racist i wonder how that applies with other folks from different countries.

Lets say a wealthy black dude talks shit about some chinese guy. Or some mexican. Isnt it that racism too?

In case anyone is offended, im truly asking your thoughts.
Can the black people impose oppressive structures which enforce their superiority over the Chinese or Mexicans in your example?

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Thu June 04, 2020 5:43 pm
by VinylGuy
wease wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:yeah, that was a cool read.

I think prejudice is kinda inherent to the human being though. While i get why black people cant be racist i wonder how that applies with other folks from different countries.

Lets say a wealthy black dude talks shit about some chinese guy. Or some mexican. Isnt it that racism too?

In case anyone is offended, im truly asking your thoughts.
Can the black people impose oppressive structures which enforce their superiority over the Chinese or Mexicans in your example?
I would say yes.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Thu June 04, 2020 5:46 pm
by surfndestroy
wease wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:yeah, that was a cool read.

I think prejudice is kinda inherent to the human being though. While i get why black people cant be racist i wonder how that applies with other folks from different countries.

Lets say a wealthy black dude talks shit about some chinese guy. Or some mexican. Isnt it that racism too?

In case anyone is offended, im truly asking your thoughts.
Can the black people impose oppressive structures which enforce their superiority over the Chinese or Mexicans in your example?
Within a predominantly black school or living area, probably. Within society, no but I don't think that makes prejudiced speech or actions any less harmful to the recipient.

But like most people I have lots to learn here and am happy to be wrong and change.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Thu June 04, 2020 6:06 pm
by wease
Apparently, there's been a mass email going to all concealed/open carry permit holders in our state to come to my town on Saturday to protect it during the high school kids' protest on Saturday. My oldest was wanting to go, but now, I don't think it's going to happen.

I hate this fucking area.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Thu June 04, 2020 6:08 pm
by epilogue
wease wrote:Apparently, there's been a mass email going to all concealed/open carry permit holders in our state to come to my town on Saturday to protect it during the high school kids' protest on Saturday. My oldest was wanting to go, but now, I don't think it's going to happen.

I hate this fucking area.
jesus

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Thu June 04, 2020 6:09 pm
by doug rr
wease wrote:Apparently, there's been a mass email going to all concealed/open carry permit holders in our state to come to my town on Saturday to protect it during the high school kids' protest on Saturday. My oldest was wanting to go, but now, I don't think it's going to happen.

I hate this fucking area.
just send him out there with a gun, they're on sale apparently.... :(

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Thu June 04, 2020 6:10 pm
by wease
doug rr wrote:
wease wrote:Apparently, there's been a mass email going to all concealed/open carry permit holders in our state to come to my town on Saturday to protect it during the high school kids' protest on Saturday. My oldest was wanting to go, but now, I don't think it's going to happen.

I hate this fucking area.
just send him out there with a gun, they're on sale apparently.... :(
Her. And even if I supported such acts, she would NEVER do that.