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Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 7:59 pm
by Iholdthepain
Rob wrote:Iholdthepain wrote:I can't believe some of you are STILL getting trolled by the tree account.
Maybe some of us don't mind? Pretty obvious what he's been doing.
Have fun then, buddy...
been there, done that!
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 8:00 pm
by B
tree_ wrote:B wrote:It's interesting that in the broad spectrum of black voices in publishing or media, tree_ most likes the voice that NO black organization has endorsed and who has a message that, "white people are doing just fine, nothing to see here."
Because their messages are about getting over the whole race thing and not dwelling on it and navel gazing to the point of absurdity.
You're misusing "navel gazing." It means you contemplate yourself at the expense of a wider view. Everyone else in this thread is discussing a societal issues that spans the US, maybe the globe. BLA in this thread, and you'll find everyone having the same discussions on every issue in this forum.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 8:01 pm
by tree_
And of course when questioning whether or not religion exists I'm drawn to Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens because they ask the questions to which believers don't end up having actual answers, just that they have faith.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 8:02 pm
by tree_
B wrote:tree_ wrote:B wrote:It's interesting that in the broad spectrum of black voices in publishing or media, tree_ most likes the voice that NO black organization has endorsed and who has a message that, "white people are doing just fine, nothing to see here."
Because their messages are about getting over the whole race thing and not dwelling on it and navel gazing to the point of absurdity.
You're misusing "navel gazing." It means you contemplate yourself at the expense of a wider view. Everyone else in this thread is discussing a societal issues that spans the US, maybe the globe. BLA in this thread, and you'll find everyone having the same discussions on every issue in this forum.
You're right I misused it but you know what I mean.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 8:04 pm
by tree_
Iholdthepain wrote:Rob wrote:Iholdthepain wrote:I can't believe some of you are STILL getting trolled by the tree account.
Maybe some of us don't mind? Pretty obvious what he's been doing.
Have fun then, buddy...
been there, done that!
What are you referring to? Did we get into it before? Sorry but I don't recall.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 8:06 pm
by Rob
https://www.benjerry.com/whats-new/2016 ... sm-is-real
Here, tree_, here's something for you to read. I realize this is 4 years old and from a couple dudes who make ice cream, but I promise it's laid out well and there's 20-25 links in this, from reputable sources, that should help you out. You tell me who is being religious after checking it out.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 8:08 pm
by tree_
Rob wrote:https://www.benjerry.com/whats-new/2016 ... sm-is-real
Here, tree_, here's something for you to read. I realize this is 4 years old and from a couple dudes who make ice cream, but I promise it's laid out well and there's 20-25 links in this, from reputable sources, that should help you out. You tell me who is being religious after checking it out.
I will check it out. Thanks.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 8:08 pm
by Self
Guys, it's not proof tree wants. It's confirmation that what he believes is right.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 8:09 pm
by tree_
Self wrote:Guys, it's not proof tree wants. It's confirmation that what he believes is right.
I don't have a belief on this subject, I have a lack of belief. Big difference.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 8:10 pm
by wease
Rob wrote:https://www.benjerry.com/whats-new/2016 ... sm-is-real
Here, tree_, here's something for you to read. I realize this is 4 years old and from a couple dudes who make ice cream, but I promise it's laid out well and there's 20-25 links in this, from reputable sources, that should help you out. You tell me who is being religious after checking it out.
He will not read that. And if, by some miracle he does, he’ll say that it provides no proof at all. Actually, he’ll probably just say that and not even bother with the link.
C’mon, stop feeding the troll.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 8:11 pm
by epilogue
tree_ wrote:B wrote:It's interesting that in the broad spectrum of black voices in publishing or media, tree_ most likes the voice that NO black organization has endorsed and who has a message that, "white people are doing just fine, nothing to see here."
Because their messages are about getting over the whole race thing and not dwelling on it and navel gazing to the point of absurdity.
I'm not interesting it "getting over the whole race thing." And I'm not interested in anyone who is interested in that kind nonsense.
You want an example of systematic racism? Read your quote above. You literally just posted a great example of it.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 8:12 pm
by epilogue
digster wrote:Rob wrote:Iholdthepain wrote:I can't believe some of you are STILL getting trolled by the tree account.
Maybe some of us don't mind? Pretty obvious what he's been doing.
I think tree just reminds me of some friends who have undergone a similar thing. It could be scripted out pretty much to the word; someone says that they've seen the light, and transcended party or partisanship, and look down on the lefty sheeple! who are extremely close-minded. We just need to have more of an open mind, and when they start talking, it's basically a Ben Shapiro transcript.
It's not the adherence to a certain way of thinking that's fascinating; it's more than, almost without fail, there's this completely lack of awareness that they've traded one set of talking points for another.
Nah. But I like that you're kind enough to give him that much credit. Tree isn't interested in these ideas. He's only interested in co-opting a thread and making it about himself. He know exactly what he's doing and he's really fucking good at it.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 8:13 pm
by B
George Floyd's family wishes that Derek Chauvin had gotten over the whole race thing.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 8:14 pm
by Rob
Self wrote:Guys, it's not proof tree wants. It's confirmation that what he believes is right.
Of course. But he asked for evidence, someone should give him some.
wease wrote:
C’mon, stop feeding the troll.
This place gets slow mid-afternoon.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 8:15 pm
by McParadigm
My favorite part of this was when he pointed out that wealth gaps exist among almost every “out“ group...as part of an argument that we’ve achieved nominal societal equality?
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 8:16 pm
by epilogue
McParadigm wrote:My favorite part of this was when he pointed out that wealth gaps exist among almost every “out“ group...as part of an argument that we’ve achieved nominal societal equality?
Prove it though
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 8:17 pm
by tree_
durdencommatyler wrote:tree_ wrote:B wrote:It's interesting that in the broad spectrum of black voices in publishing or media, tree_ most likes the voice that NO black organization has endorsed and who has a message that, "white people are doing just fine, nothing to see here."
Because their messages are about getting over the whole race thing and not dwelling on it and navel gazing to the point of absurdity.
I'm not interesting it "getting over the whole race thing." And I'm not interested in anyone who is interested in that kind nonsense.
You want an example of systematic racism? Read your quote above. You literally just posted a great example of it.
What I mean is that I want race to not be a factor. And it doesn't have to be. In my mind, believe it or not, I think of all humans as inherently equal, no matter what race or gender etc. Yes I know the "I don't see color" trope has somehow become a taboo. But my god isn't that the right goal?
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 8:18 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
tree_ wrote:Self wrote:Guys, it's not proof tree wants. It's confirmation that what he believes is right.
I don't have a belief on this subject, I have a lack of belief. Big difference.
You don't believe systemic racism exists, clearly. That is a belief, pal
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 8:21 pm
by tree_
durdencommatyler wrote:McParadigm wrote:My favorite part of this was when he pointed out that wealth gaps exist among almost every “out“ group...as part of an argument that we’ve achieved nominal societal equality?
Prove it though
I don't think perfectly equal outcomes in every field between every group should be expected because of many factors. To assume it's racism or sexism or whatever without proof is jumping to conclusions.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 8:22 pm
by tree_
E.H. Ruddock wrote:tree_ wrote:Self wrote:Guys, it's not proof tree wants. It's confirmation that what he believes is right.
I don't have a belief on this subject, I have a lack of belief. Big difference.
You don't believe systemic racism exists, clearly. That is a belief, pal
I'm telling you that I haven't seen proof yet but will believe it if I see it.