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Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Tue August 20, 2013 8:56 pm
by stip
I've been so turned off by live versions for so long that I've forgotten how good RVM is.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 12:58 pm
by LikeLukin
stip wrote:I've been so turned off by live versions for so long that I've forgotten how good RVM is.
Ditto. This has happened to me for a lot of songs unfortunately, like GTF, Small Town, Betterman, etc. I cringe when they begin them live, but in the spirit of this thread, all 3 are incredible songs.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 12:59 pm
by stip
LikeLukin wrote:
stip wrote:I've been so turned off by live versions for so long that I've forgotten how good RVM is.
Ditto. This has happened to me for a lot of songs unfortunately, like GTF, Small Town, Betterman, etc. I cringe when they begin them live, but in the spirit of this thread, all 3 are incredible songs.
Those 3 I like getting live

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 2:01 pm
by Monkey_Driven
The song tournaments are reminding me how incredibly deep the band's library is. The number of songwriters in the band can lead to some awkward songs and mind boggling exclusions from albums but it is what makes the band so alluring.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 2:36 pm
by evenslow
Monkey_Driven wrote:The song tournaments are reminding me how incredibly deep the band's library is. The number of songwriters in the band can lead to some awkward songs and mind boggling exclusions from albums but it is what makes the band so alluring.
Yes. When putting together PJ playlists you can go one of many different directions depending on mood. All under the rock umbrella of course, but still.

"Sounds like Pearl Jam" can mean several different things.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 2:42 pm
by Monkey_Driven
evenslow wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:The song tournaments are reminding me how incredibly deep the band's library is. The number of songwriters in the band can lead to some awkward songs and mind boggling exclusions from albums but it is what makes the band so alluring.
Yes. When putting together PJ playlists you can go one of many different directions depending on mood. All under the rock umbrella of course, but still.

"Sounds like Pearl Jam" can mean several different things.
That is the toughest thing to explain to casual fans or rock radio listeners when trying to describe how diverse the band is. They just think of Alive and Even Flow. If they only knew the glorious stretch of the middle records.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 2:47 pm
by evenslow
Monkey_Driven wrote:
evenslow wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:The song tournaments are reminding me how incredibly deep the band's library is. The number of songwriters in the band can lead to some awkward songs and mind boggling exclusions from albums but it is what makes the band so alluring.
Yes. When putting together PJ playlists you can go one of many different directions depending on mood. All under the rock umbrella of course, but still.

"Sounds like Pearl Jam" can mean several different things.
That is the toughest thing to explain to casual fans or rock radio listeners when trying to describe how diverse the band is. They just think of Alive and Even Flow. If they only knew the glorious stretch of the middle records.
And you could make an absolute classic of a record with b-sides alone.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 2:50 pm
by Monkey_Driven
evenslow wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
evenslow wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:The song tournaments are reminding me how incredibly deep the band's library is. The number of songwriters in the band can lead to some awkward songs and mind boggling exclusions from albums but it is what makes the band so alluring.
Yes. When putting together PJ playlists you can go one of many different directions depending on mood. All under the rock umbrella of course, but still.

"Sounds like Pearl Jam" can mean several different things.
That is the toughest thing to explain to casual fans or rock radio listeners when trying to describe how diverse the band is. They just think of Alive and Even Flow. If they only knew the glorious stretch of the middle records.
And you could make an absolute classic of a record with b-sides alone.
Absolutely. I feel like the Binaural sessions alone had a classic album in there somewhere that just fell short for some reason.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 2:52 pm
by Mine
Monkey_Driven wrote:
evenslow wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:The song tournaments are reminding me how incredibly deep the band's library is. The number of songwriters in the band can lead to some awkward songs and mind boggling exclusions from albums but it is what makes the band so alluring.
Yes. When putting together PJ playlists you can go one of many different directions depending on mood. All under the rock umbrella of course, but still.

"Sounds like Pearl Jam" can mean several different things.
That is the toughest thing to explain to casual fans or rock radio listeners when trying to describe how diverse the band is. They just think of Alive and Even Flow. If they only knew the glorious stretch of the middle records.
I guess this shows how much promotion actually does. You'd think they sold enough records for their music, besides 10, to be at least partially known but it really isn't. I actually think most of those people wouldn't even recognise them in most of their catalogue especially form Vitalogy onwards. Even Ed sounds drastically different especially on No Code compared to their singles from 10 people are most familiar with.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 2:52 pm
by Mine
Monkey_Driven wrote:
evenslow wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
evenslow wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:The song tournaments are reminding me how incredibly deep the band's library is. The number of songwriters in the band can lead to some awkward songs and mind boggling exclusions from albums but it is what makes the band so alluring.
Yes. When putting together PJ playlists you can go one of many different directions depending on mood. All under the rock umbrella of course, but still.

"Sounds like Pearl Jam" can mean several different things.
That is the toughest thing to explain to casual fans or rock radio listeners when trying to describe how diverse the band is. They just think of Alive and Even Flow. If they only knew the glorious stretch of the middle records.
And you could make an absolute classic of a record with b-sides alone.
Absolutely. I feel like the Binaural sessions alone had a classic album in there somewhere that just fell short for some reason.
the cynic in me thinks it's royalties

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 3:05 pm
by broken iris
I'm here to give thanks to "In Hiding". That song is about as good as it gets live and has aged better than most of Yield.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 3:38 pm
by stupidmop
Mine wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
evenslow wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
evenslow wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:The song tournaments are reminding me how incredibly deep the band's library is. The number of songwriters in the band can lead to some awkward songs and mind boggling exclusions from albums but it is what makes the band so alluring.
Yes. When putting together PJ playlists you can go one of many different directions depending on mood. All under the rock umbrella of course, but still.

"Sounds like Pearl Jam" can mean several different things.
That is the toughest thing to explain to casual fans or rock radio listeners when trying to describe how diverse the band is. They just think of Alive and Even Flow. If they only knew the glorious stretch of the middle records.
And you could make an absolute classic of a record with b-sides alone.
Absolutely. I feel like the Binaural sessions alone had a classic album in there somewhere that just fell short for some reason.
the cynic in me thinks it's royalties
Maybe some of em. But you could have swapped evacuation with education, breakerfall with sad and fatal with thin air. Gods dice with otherside? Or was that riot act.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 4:09 pm
by Mine
Evacuation is the only track credited solely to Matt while Education is Ed's. You'd have to take In The Moonlight in it's place. I get your point though. Other Side was the b-side of Save You.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 5:09 pm
by stupidmop
Ah I thought evacuations was ed for some reason.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 8:07 pm
by Lounge Lizard
Education is in my top ten ever. Absolutely love it despite the Kobain-like two chord verse part (I need an easy friend I do / I'm questioning my education)

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 8:09 pm
by Lament
Lounge Lizard wrote:Education is in my top ten ever. Absolutely love it despite the Kobain-like two chord verse part (I need an easy friend I do / I'm questioning my education)
Education just keeps getting better with age. Whenever I go back to Lost Dogs, I find that song to be more of a favorite each time.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 8:11 pm
by Lounge Lizard
Lament wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:Education is in my top ten ever. Absolutely love it despite the Kobain-like two chord verse part (I need an easy friend I do / I'm questioning my education)
Education just keeps getting better with age. Whenever I go back to Lost Dogs, I find that song to be more of a favorite each time.
+1
Every bit of it is brilliant, from the drum opener to Ed's "Hey!" in unison with the first guitar chord played

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 8:13 pm
by stip
the other mix floating out there is interesting. Much drier.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 8:13 pm
by Lament
Lounge Lizard wrote:+1
Every bit of it is brilliant, from the drum opener to Ed's "Hey!" in unison with the first guitar chord played
Ed's entire vocal performance on it is pretty underrated. Especially the "wondering why it grows" part.

Re: General Pearl Jam Praising

Posted: Fri August 23, 2013 8:14 pm
by EJ
stip wrote:the other mix floating out there is interesting. Much drier.
I like that other mix of it too. Its got more of an mid-Eastern tinge to it, I think.