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Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 6:29 pm
by BurtReynolds
haha the media slant on this Warren story is unbelievable! "See! She's a native just like she said!"

At least people are seeing right through it, but jesus.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 6:30 pm
by Norah
Yeah, I can't believe that incredibly disingenuous Washington Post headline that reads: "Warren releases DNA test suggesting distant Native American ancestor"

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 6:31 pm
by run2death
The media!

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 6:38 pm
by bune
The media. What a bunch of bastards.

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You don't have to be right, you have to be louder.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 6:41 pm
by BurtReynolds
cutuphalfdead wrote:Yeah, I can't believe that incredibly disingenuous Washington Post headline that reads: "Warren releases DNA test suggesting distant Native American ancestor"

or


Senator Elizabeth Warren has released the results of a DNA test which shows "strong evidence" of her Native American ancestry.

or (from your neck of the woods)

No more Pocahontas, Now, can Warren overcome the ‘blah blah blah’ gene with voters?
New DNA evidence proves Elizabeth Warren’s Native American heritage. But it won’t be enough stop the sexist attacks from the GOP.

or

Elizabeth Warren releases DNA test with 'strong evidence' of Native American ancestry

or

Elizabeth Warren releases DNA results indicating she has Native American heritage

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 6:45 pm
by run2death
LOL

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 6:46 pm
by Norah
The only headline you cite that is even close to being spin is from an opinion piece.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 6:50 pm
by run2death
She's probably more Indian than most Cajuns are french.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 6:58 pm
by bada
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Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:02 pm
by BurtReynolds
She's as native American as the Cleveland Indians. 6 to 10 generations ago does not make you a native, you insane clowns. The issue is of course overblown, but she obviously was a fraud to claim it. Obviously.

But like someone said, every dumbass white kid claims they are at one point as well, so it just makes her normal. But of course Trump didn't lose his stupid bet over it. (edit: though it now seems she used it to her advantage quite a bit)

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:03 pm
by Norah
So all these newspapers should have editorialized the story by saying that despite actually having some Native American ancestry, she shouldn't claim it?

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:09 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:13 pm
by Jorge
BurtReynolds wrote:She's as native American as the Cleveland Indians. 6 to 10 generations ago does not make you a native, you insane clowns. The issue is of course overblown, but she obviously was a fraud to claim it. Obviously.

But like someone said, every dumbass white kid claims they are at one point as well, so it just makes her normal. But of course Trump didn't lose his stupid bet over it.
You're conflating two separate issues. Was Warren right to claim native ancestry vs. is the media reporting on this slanting positively towards her. Like Chud said, out of those headlines you cited, the only one that sounds like spin is an opinion piece in the "Opinion" section of the Boston Globe. It's possible that there are other news stories that are more overt, but not the ones you posted. The ones that claim "strong heritage" are quoting directly from the test results, and the other one is a simple factual statement.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:14 pm
by run2death
Trag moves to Montana and now thinks he's an expert on Indian culture.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:16 pm
by B
BurtReynolds wrote:She's as native American as the Cleveland Indians. 6 to 10 generations ago does not make you a native, you insane clowns. The issue is of course overblown, but she obviously was a fraud to claim it. Obviously.
What is the correct number of generations one may go back to claim ancestry?

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:17 pm
by McParadigm
A much better argument would be that she made the claim prior to actually investigating it, and the accuracy of it is inconsequential to whether or not she was factually certain of its accuracy at the time.

The rush instead to borrow the language of racial purity is...a bummer.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:17 pm
by B
For the record, Trump didn't make the bet. He said he could make the bet.

Good people would pay, but Trump is not good people.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:19 pm
by McParadigm
B wrote:For the record, Trump didn't make the bet. He said he could make the bet.

Good people would pay, but Trump is not good people.
It was such a dumb angle. The media is still a thousand miles behind the realities of the day, and only sees the opportunity to click bait-angle Trump’s name into a story.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:20 pm
by B
McParadigm wrote:A much better argument would be that she made the claim prior to actually investigating it, and the accuracy of it is inconsequential to whether or not she was factually certain of its accuracy at the time.

The rush instead to borrow the language of racial purity is...a bummer.
If your parents said you had ____ ancestry your whole life, would you think twice before putting it on a form? It's not like she called a press conference. People dug through her employment paperwork to find this "claim."

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon October 15, 2018 7:26 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE