Red Mosquito

Bammer wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

joostone wrote:I have no problem with a 2 hour show. It's been like that till 2012. Only for the 2014-2018 tours they played longer on every night. But they used to play way more songs on a 2 hour show. They played at least 27 songs on a 2 hour show in 2000 or 2010. Now they play about 20.

But in a way I can understand this. They could not tour for 4 years. And on their first tour since, half of the band got covid and they had to improvise and cancel shows. They just want this EU tour to go well and are not taking any chances. The longer shows or more setlist variation will come back Im sure..

Only feel bad for Klinghoffer.. They basically brought him on tour for the Gigaton songs and they only play 3 of those..

This is a fair point. The stats don't capture all of Ed's blathering that is chewing up the stage time. BUT, not a song was scratched in Italy and that was only 23 headlining in front of 65k and on the same night 80 y.o. Paul McCartney played 38.

Beatles songs average about 2:02

Bi_3 wrote:

Bammer wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

joostone wrote:I have no problem with a 2 hour show. It's been like that till 2012. Only for the 2014-2018 tours they played longer on every night. But they used to play way more songs on a 2 hour show. They played at least 27 songs on a 2 hour show in 2000 or 2010. Now they play about 20.

But in a way I can understand this. They could not tour for 4 years. And on their first tour since, half of the band got covid and they had to improvise and cancel shows. They just want this EU tour to go well and are not taking any chances. The longer shows or more setlist variation will come back Im sure..

Only feel bad for Klinghoffer.. They basically brought him on tour for the Gigaton songs and they only play 3 of those..

This is a fair point. The stats don't capture all of Ed's blathering that is chewing up the stage time. BUT, not a song was scratched in Italy and that was only 23 headlining in front of 65k and on the same night 80 y.o. Paul McCartney played 38.

Beatles songs average about 2:02

So do PJ songs with Matt on the kit

warehouse wrote:i would imagine matt cameron requested lesser songs

Bi_3 wrote:

Bammer wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

joostone wrote:I have no problem with a 2 hour show. It's been like that till 2012. Only for the 2014-2018 tours they played longer on every night. But they used to play way more songs on a 2 hour show. They played at least 27 songs on a 2 hour show in 2000 or 2010. Now they play about 20.

But in a way I can understand this. They could not tour for 4 years. And on their first tour since, half of the band got covid and they had to improvise and cancel shows. They just want this EU tour to go well and are not taking any chances. The longer shows or more setlist variation will come back Im sure..

Only feel bad for Klinghoffer.. They basically brought him on tour for the Gigaton songs and they only play 3 of those..

This is a fair point. The stats don't capture all of Ed's blathering that is chewing up the stage time. BUT, not a song was scratched in Italy and that was only 23 headlining in front of 65k and on the same night 80 y.o. Paul McCartney played 38.

Beatles songs average about 2:02

So do PJ songs with Matt on the kit

Jorge wrote:

warehouse wrote:i would imagine matt cameron requested lesser songs

No wonder they played "Come Back" the other night

Bammer wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

Bammer wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

joostone wrote:I have no problem with a 2 hour show. It's been like that till 2012. Only for the 2014-2018 tours they played longer on every night. But they used to play way more songs on a 2 hour show. They played at least 27 songs on a 2 hour show in 2000 or 2010. Now they play about 20.

But in a way I can understand this. They could not tour for 4 years. And on their first tour since, half of the band got covid and they had to improvise and cancel shows. They just want this EU tour to go well and are not taking any chances. The longer shows or more setlist variation will come back Im sure..

Only feel bad for Klinghoffer.. They basically brought him on tour for the Gigaton songs and they only play 3 of those..

This is a fair point. The stats don't capture all of Ed's blathering that is chewing up the stage time. BUT, not a song was scratched in Italy and that was only 23 headlining in front of 65k and on the same night 80 y.o. Paul McCartney played 38.

Beatles songs average about 2:02

So do PJ songs with Matt on the kit

Oh snap!

Birds in Hell wrote:Matt was pretty open in that recent Rolling Stone piece about how playing high energy rock music for hours a night becomes an increasingly tough gig for a drummer as you get older, especially into your 50s.

McCartney's songs aren't quite as physically demanding on the whole - and his drummer is 9 years younger than Matt.

Whatever the reason, I'm really pleased the shorter sets with fewer covers have stuck around.

joostone wrote:the Frankfurt setlist looks great!

warehouse wrote:i think my only complaint would be the songs that seem to be staples. i'd be fine if they stopped playing jeremy. why go is great, but there are 20 other songs with the same feel that could be played early in a setlist. with that said, i hope they play porch and given to fly at every show i ever go to.