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Re: The single most embarrassing thing from PJ’s career

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 4:23 pm
by Ms Harmless
I mean, part of "don't treat wait staff like trash" is that 1) they are likely poor / working class and struggling, 2) they are strangers, you don't employ them and have no previous history with them, so you have literally zero reason to feel any animosity towards them

I don't know if any of that's true for Ed's guitar tech

Re: The single most embarrassing thing from PJ’s career

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 4:28 pm
by Jorge
It's not good to publicly denigrate your subordinates no matter how much money is in their bank account

I don't think guitar techs are swimming in money anyhow

Re: The single most embarrassing thing from PJ’s career

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 4:28 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: The single most embarrassing thing from PJ’s career

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 4:30 pm
by oneway23
Ms Harmless wrote:I mean, part of "don't treat wait staff like trash" is that 1) they are likely poor / working class and struggling, 2) they are strangers, you don't employ them and have no previous history with them, so you have literally zero reason to feel any animosity towards them

I don't know if any of that's true for Ed's guitar tech
Not that employing someone permits one to treat another like gum on the bottom of their shoe, of course, but, yes, it's definitely a different dynamic.
Jorge wrote:It's not good to publicly denigrate your subordinates no matter how much money is in their bank account
It's not a great look, but, we lack context, which is regularly, if not always, everything.

Re: The single most embarrassing thing from PJ’s career

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 4:32 pm
by Jorge
I think we did get the context back when it happened. Ricky Ramone very likely incompetent. It's still a shitty way to treat a person

Re: The single most embarrassing thing from PJ’s career

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 4:34 pm
by Jorge
But in hindsight, yeah, it's this
Mike wrote:

Stupid boob showing girls need to educate themselves so they can vote hehe you only have mosquito bites

Image

Re: The single most embarrassing thing from PJ’s career

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 4:34 pm
by Ms Harmless
Jorge wrote:It's not good to publicly denigrate your subordinates no matter how much money is in their bank account

I don't think guitar techs are swimming in money anyhow
I specified "Ed's guitar tech" because I assume he's in a better position than most guitar techs

I totally agree with your first point, I just don't think they're like for like comparisons; we wouldn't really feel any pity for either party if Ed had conflict with a band member

in any case... no sorrow for the unaccountable; Ed owes every one of us an explanation for this expanding list of heinous transgressions

Re: The single most embarrassing thing from PJ’s career

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 4:37 pm
by oneway23
Ms Harmless wrote:
Jorge wrote: in any case... no sorrow for the unaccountable; Ed owes every one of us an explanation for this expanding list of heinous transgressions
:haha:

Clearly, each one of us has been an unassailable bastion of integrity within every moment of our lives

Re: The single most embarrassing thing from PJ’s career

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 4:38 pm
by Ms Harmless
Jorge wrote:I think we did get the context back when it happened. Ricky Ramone very likely incompetent. It's still a shitty way to treat a person
every one of us has been treated like shit by unhappy employers, probably; I'm not saying I like it, but it doesn't stick out to me as Top Of The List; in terms of public humiliation, the mosquito bites thing is way worse; that was verbally abusive incel behaviour

Re: The single most embarrassing thing from PJ’s career

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 4:40 pm
by oneway23
Ms Harmless wrote:
Jorge wrote:I think we did get the context back when it happened. Ricky Ramone very likely incompetent. It's still a shitty way to treat a person
every one of us has been treated like shit by unhappy employers
Honestly...I had a boss ask me one time if I hated God "because of what happened to me."

Re: The single most embarrassing thing from PJ’s career

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 4:41 pm
by dad
Jorge wrote:But in hindsight, yeah, it's this
Mike wrote:

Stupid boob showing girls need to educate themselves so they can vote hehe you only have mosquito bites

Image
what if he does like to shit on little girls' heads like he joked about there?

ewww

Re: The single most embarrassing thing from PJ’s career

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 4:43 pm
by Anders
The Ed-bots are the worst. They are more fans of Ed than the band, and no matter what he does (musically, personally or any other way), they always back him up 100%.

Re: The single most embarrassing thing from PJ’s career

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 4:45 pm
by Ms Harmless
oneway23 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Jorge wrote:I think we did get the context back when it happened. Ricky Ramone very likely incompetent. It's still a shitty way to treat a person
every one of us has been treated like shit by unhappy employers, probably; I'm not saying I like it, but it doesn't stick out to me as Top Of The List; in terms of public humiliation, the mosquito bites thing is way worse; that was verbally abusive incel behaviour
Honestly...I had a boss ask me one time if I hated God "because of what happened to me."
ouch

Re: The single most embarrassing thing from PJ’s career

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 4:46 pm
by Jorge
Ms Harmless wrote:
Jorge wrote:I think we did get the context back when it happened. Ricky Ramone very likely incompetent. It's still a shitty way to treat a person
every one of us has been treated like shit by unhappy employers, probably; I'm not saying I like it, but it doesn't stick out to me as Top Of The List; in terms of public humiliation, the mosquito bites thing is way worse; that was verbally abusive incel behaviour
Yeah it's worse

But that smirk on his face as he refuses to hand his guitar over and instead throws it on the floor for his tech to carry away

Ugh, something about it really gives me the heebie jeebies

Re: The single most embarrassing thing from PJ’s career

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 4:48 pm
by Jorge
Anders wrote:The Ed-bots are the worst. They are more fans of Ed than the band, and no matter what he does (musically, personally or any other way), they always back him up 100%.
I think hardcore PJ fans are embarrassing but I think hardcore fans of pretty much every artist are embarrassing, I am not convinced the Jamily is actually any worse

Re: The single most embarrassing thing from PJ’s career

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 4:48 pm
by Ms Harmless
Jorge wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Jorge wrote:I think we did get the context back when it happened. Ricky Ramone very likely incompetent. It's still a shitty way to treat a person
every one of us has been treated like shit by unhappy employers, probably; I'm not saying I like it, but it doesn't stick out to me as Top Of The List; in terms of public humiliation, the mosquito bites thing is way worse; that was verbally abusive incel behaviour
Yeah it's worse

But that smirk on his face as he refuses to hand his guitar over and instead throws it on the floor for his tech to carry away

Ugh, something about it really gives me the heebie jeebies
agreed

Re: The single most embarrassing thing from PJ’s career

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 4:55 pm
by Bammer
Jorge wrote:
Anders wrote:The Ed-bots are the worst. They are more fans of Ed than the band, and no matter what he does (musically, personally or any other way), they always back him up 100%.
I think hardcore PJ fans are embarrassing but I think hardcore fans of pretty much every artist are embarrassing, I am not convinced the Jamily is actually any worse
DMB
ICP
There are plenty

Re: The single most embarrassing thing from PJ’s career

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 4:59 pm
by Bammer
The tournament will be called Gaffe Full by the way, putting it out there now so nobody else tries to fucking steal it.

Re: The single most embarrassing thing from PJ’s career

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 5:00 pm
by oneway23
Jorge wrote:
Anders wrote:The Ed-bots are the worst. They are more fans of Ed than the band, and no matter what he does (musically, personally or any other way), they always back him up 100%.
I think hardcore PJ fans are embarrassing but I think hardcore fans of pretty much every artist are embarrassing, I am not convinced the Jamily is actually any worse
There's currently a person in the Judas Priest fan community getting themselves summarily banned from every subreddit, forum, discord, and Facebook group imaginable after apparently writing a series of disturbing letters to band members and publicly picking fights with producers and other members of the bands' inner circle over a former band member.

How many among us have done so, or would do so, for Dave A....HOW MANY?!?

Re: The single most embarrassing thing from PJ’s career

Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 5:02 pm
by Anders
While it happens for other bands and artists as well, but for PJ, the worst fans always seem very fixated on Ed.