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Re: Vedder is McCartney ; McCartney is Vedder

Posted: Tue January 07, 2014 10:19 pm
by Mine
Anders wrote:I still think most PJ songs that casual or non fans know are Ten songs like Alive, Jeremy, Black and Even Flow. For those that really don't know any rock music, they might still acknowledge Alive if they hear it. It's THE Pearl Jam album.
The kind of promotion it had compared to the rest of their records has a huge role in this. It's naive to think otherwise.

Re: Vedder is McCartney ; McCartney is Vedder

Posted: Tue January 07, 2014 10:22 pm
by Anders
They sell out concerts all over Europe fairly easily still, and Ten was massive in a music cultural way in the early 90s, and I still meet random people in Oslo and Europe around our age group that say Pearl Jam is their favorite band. But as for 2013/2014, kids/teens really don't care or think much about the band, probably hardly know they exist.

Re: Vedder is McCartney ; McCartney is Vedder

Posted: Tue January 07, 2014 10:25 pm
by Mine
Anders wrote:They sell out concerts all over Europe fairly easily still, and Ten was massive in a music cultural way in the early 90s, and I still meet random people in Oslo and Europe around our age group that say Pearl Jam is their favorite band. But as for 2013/2014, kids/teens really don't care or think much about the band, probably hardly know they exist.
They're familiar with Nirvana though i presume.

Re: Vedder is McCartney ; McCartney is Vedder

Posted: Tue January 07, 2014 10:26 pm
by hlniv
Hence the purpose of the article in the OP.

Kids (<18 or so) today generally think of PJ the same way they would The Beatles. Or Foreigner. Or the Eagles. Or Pink Floyd. Or Tom Petty. It's all classic rock to them

Re: Vedder is McCartney ; McCartney is Vedder

Posted: Tue January 07, 2014 10:26 pm
by Anders
I can't remember the last time i met a Nirvana fan, or heard a Nirvana song in a random place. They were huge after Cobain died though, especially Smells Like Teen Spirit.

Re: Vedder is McCartney ; McCartney is Vedder

Posted: Tue January 07, 2014 10:30 pm
by Mine
stip wrote:
Mine wrote:Ok i give up.
Ten is the best rock album ever released. Hell it's the best music ever created. It's the most influential album of all times. In fact every album conceived after its release is largely influenced by it. It made every other piece of music irrelevant by comparison and it still does. It's innovative, ground breaking, not derivative at all even if it borrowed a solo from a band that borrowed it from another.
well lets not go nuts. It's no Jagged Little Pill or Cracked Rearview
I thought of Jagged Little Pill because of how the impact Ten had is described here. It reminded me of it. Oh google tells me they're making a Broadway musical based on it.

Re: Vedder is McCartney ; McCartney is Vedder

Posted: Tue January 07, 2014 10:30 pm
by Anders
Mine wrote:
Anders wrote:They sell out concerts all over Europe fairly easily still, and Ten was massive in a music cultural way in the early 90s, and I still meet random people in Oslo and Europe around our age group that say Pearl Jam is their favorite band. But as for 2013/2014, kids/teens really don't care or think much about the band, probably hardly know they exist.
They're familiar with Nirvana though i presume.
I think a lot of people have heard of Kurt Cobain, but he's no Bruce Springsteen/Neil Young/Eric Clapton. More so for that group between 25 and 45.

Re: Vedder is McCartney ; McCartney is Vedder

Posted: Tue January 07, 2014 10:32 pm
by Mine
Anders wrote:
Mine wrote:
Anders wrote:They sell out concerts all over Europe fairly easily still, and Ten was massive in a music cultural way in the early 90s, and I still meet random people in Oslo and Europe around our age group that say Pearl Jam is their favorite band. But as for 2013/2014, kids/teens really don't care or think much about the band, probably hardly know they exist.
They're familiar with Nirvana though i presume.
I think a lot of people have heard of Kurt Cobain, but he's no Bruce Springsteen/Neil Young/Eric Clapton. More so for that group between 25 and 45.
Sounds about right.

Re: Vedder is McCartney ; McCartney is Vedder

Posted: Tue January 07, 2014 10:39 pm
by bada
I'm not sure why we think so poorly of teenagers as far as music knowledge. When I was 18 I knew all about bands that were decades old and that was when you had to take a chance and buy the tape or cd to listen to something off of word of mouth. A kid today could have any bands entire discography in 5 minutes for free. I loved all sorts of bands from the 60s when I was a kid it didn't mean I was going to their reunion concerts and buying their shitty new albums.

Re: Vedder is McCartney ; McCartney is Vedder

Posted: Tue January 07, 2014 10:55 pm
by stupidmop
Before I got into the band a few years back you could have told me the lead singer was an hawaiian named boom gaspar who drowned before they put out a second album and Id have had no problem believing it. Until I Wikipedia'd 'boom gaspar' to see if that was his real name.