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Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour

Posted: Fri June 07, 2013 9:23 pm
by yofismom
I think what I don't like about the 2000 tour (which I only know from boots) is that Ed sounds so depressed and as a result sort of flat. I even hear this in beloved show like Seatlle 2 and very much in Saratoga Springs. Makes all the sense in the world given Roskilde.

Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour

Posted: Fri June 07, 2013 10:36 pm
by Norah
Naysayer!

Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour

Posted: Sat June 08, 2013 1:37 am
by WtOB?
yofismom wrote:I think what I don't like about the 2000 tour (which I only know from boots) is that Ed sounds so depressed and as a result sort of flat. I even hear this in beloved show like Seatlle 2 and very much in Saratoga Springs. Makes all the sense in the world given Roskilde.
It wasn't just Roskilde m8. And I swear every time Eddie mentions Roskilde on stage and starts crying he isn't just remembering that alone.

Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour

Posted: Sat June 08, 2013 1:38 am
by WtOB?
The scoundrel.

Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour

Posted: Sat June 08, 2013 3:51 am
by Birds in Hell
Team Liebling.

Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour

Posted: Sat June 08, 2013 9:01 pm
by Norah
Birds in Hell wrote:Team Liebling.
Me too.

When did the split happen? What tour was Ed singing "small my table sits just one?"

Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour

Posted: Sun June 09, 2013 2:50 am
by WtOB?
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:Team Liebling.
Me too.

When did the split happen? What tour was Ed singing "small my table sits just one?"
The actual divorce was in September, in between leg 1 and 2 of NA.

Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour

Posted: Sun June 09, 2013 4:56 am
by Norah
WtOB? wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:Team Liebling.
Me too.

When did the split happen? What tour was Ed singing "small my table sits just one?"
The actual divorce was in September, in between leg 1 and 2 of NA.
I was listening to Lubbock today and he said "seats just two" and it made me wonder when he was doing the "seats just one" consistently.

Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour

Posted: Sun June 09, 2013 5:12 am
by Birds in Hell
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:Team Liebling.
Me too.

When did the split happen?
Sometime in 1999.

Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour

Posted: Sun June 09, 2013 5:20 am
by Norah
Birds in Hell wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:Team Liebling.
Me too.

When did the split happen?
Sometime in 1999.
So was the 98 tour the "seats just one" tour? Or was that early 2000?

Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour

Posted: Sun June 09, 2013 5:34 am
by Birds in Hell
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:Team Liebling.
Me too.

When did the split happen?
Sometime in 1999.
So was the 98 tour the "seats just one" tour? Or was that early 2000?
I think it was on-and-off through 2000.

I listened to parts of Saratoga yesterday and Ed threw "...why couldn't I come?" into Hail, Hail and there's a number of veiled references peppered throughout the Seattle shows at the end of the tour from memory.

Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour

Posted: Sun June 09, 2013 5:39 am
by Norah
Birds in Hell wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:Team Liebling.
Me too.

When did the split happen?
Sometime in 1999.
So was the 98 tour the "seats just one" tour? Or was that early 2000?
I think it was on-and-off through 2000.

I listened to parts of Saratoga yesterday and Ed threw "...why couldn't I come?" into Hail, Hail and there's a number of veiled references peppered throughout the Seattle shows at the end of the tour from memory.
So when was he throwing that quick "me and beth" line in Not For You? 96 or something?

Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour

Posted: Sun June 09, 2013 5:40 am
by matt reeder
WtOB? wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:Team Liebling.
Me too.

When did the split happen? What tour was Ed singing "small my table sits just one?"
The actual divorce was in September, in between leg 1 and 2 of NA.
This would actually completely explain the appearance of "Parting Ways" early in leg 2.

Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour

Posted: Sun June 09, 2013 5:41 am
by Norah
That Parting Ways from Lubbock is so fucking good. The Sonic Youth-y end to it is just tops.

Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour

Posted: Sun June 09, 2013 5:42 am
by Birds in Hell
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:Team Liebling.
Me too.

When did the split happen?
Sometime in 1999.
So was the 98 tour the "seats just one" tour? Or was that early 2000?
I think it was on-and-off through 2000.

I listened to parts of Saratoga yesterday and Ed threw "...why couldn't I come?" into Hail, Hail and there's a number of veiled references peppered throughout the Seattle shows at the end of the tour from memory.
So when was he throwing that quick "me and beth" line in Not For You? 96 or something?
I'd have to check. He definitely added it during to the Orpheum '94 version (though it's absent from the official release.)

Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour

Posted: Sun June 09, 2013 5:45 am
by Norah
Birds in Hell wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:Team Liebling.
Me too.

When did the split happen?
Sometime in 1999.
So was the 98 tour the "seats just one" tour? Or was that early 2000?
I think it was on-and-off through 2000.

I listened to parts of Saratoga yesterday and Ed threw "...why couldn't I come?" into Hail, Hail and there's a number of veiled references peppered throughout the Seattle shows at the end of the tour from memory.
So when was he throwing that quick "me and beth" line in Not For You? 96 or something?
I'd have to check. He definitely added it during to the Orpheum '94 version (though it's absent from the official release.)
There was a time when I could tell you exactly when he did and didn't say these things.

Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour

Posted: Sun June 09, 2013 5:50 am
by WtOB?
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:Team Liebling.
Me too.

When did the split happen?
Sometime in 1999.
So was the 98 tour the "seats just one" tour? Or was that early 2000?
They were definitely together in 98, during that Washington show, which is like the 3rd last show of the tour I believe, Hovercraft opened and she actually comes out during PJ's set before Ledbetter.

Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour

Posted: Sun June 09, 2013 5:55 am
by Jorge
Yup, definitely The Pit.

Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour

Posted: Sun June 09, 2013 5:56 am
by Norah
Now I feel dirty.

Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour

Posted: Sun June 09, 2013 6:01 am
by Birds in Hell
Surely any discussion of B*th would be frowned upon at the Pit.