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Re: Eddie solo songs
Posted: Sun March 09, 2014 2:04 am
by oasisfan35
stip wrote:EJ wrote:Strat wrote:IM currently spinning the Constitution Hall 98 show. Man alive. At times I agree with stip and other times I agree with everyone else. Im somewhere in the middle on it all but listening to this show you understand how amazing the band was live. At this point in their career the fan enthusiasm was something that could not be separated from the show because the performances were so good. Now the fan participation and enthusiasm comes from Ed "being a drunken bafoon and being lazy and toasting wine like a 16 year old". Whereas "in their prime" the fan could literally not help but have a transcendental experience due to how incredible the band were performing their craft.
So true, my friend.
the ed as a drunken buffoon thing is also, I think, more than a little overstated. Not that it isn't there at times, but it's hardly a controlling thing. And VERY FEW people, I suspect, are there because they are attracted to it.
Shit, if anything I notice far fewer 'Eddie' chants than I used to.
But EdVed does make quite a todo about his wine drinking, especially since '05.
Re: Eddie solo songs
Posted: Sun March 09, 2014 3:28 am
by stip
it's stage banter. Stupid stage banter, granted.
Re: Eddie solo songs
Posted: Sun March 09, 2014 4:35 am
by dprival78
oasisfan35 wrote:stip wrote:EJ wrote:Strat wrote:IM currently spinning the Constitution Hall 98 show. Man alive. At times I agree with stip and other times I agree with everyone else. Im somewhere in the middle on it all but listening to this show you understand how amazing the band was live. At this point in their career the fan enthusiasm was something that could not be separated from the show because the performances were so good. Now the fan participation and enthusiasm comes from Ed "being a drunken bafoon and being lazy and toasting wine like a 16 year old". Whereas "in their prime" the fan could literally not help but have a transcendental experience due to how incredible the band were performing their craft.
So true, my friend.
the ed as a drunken buffoon thing is also, I think, more than a little overstated. Not that it isn't there at times, but it's hardly a controlling thing. And VERY FEW people, I suspect, are there because they are attracted to it.
Shit, if anything I notice far fewer 'Eddie' chants than I used to.
But EdVed does make quite a todo about his wine drinking, especially since '05.
don't forget, that half the time, it's Gatorade in those bottles.
so it's not just playing up the "fun drunk guy" thing, it's also become just plain phonyness and schtick.
Re: Eddie solo songs
Posted: Sun March 09, 2014 4:39 am
by Lament
Hasn't that always been his schtick? Wasn't that an early Dave A. accusation, that was pretending to be drunk at the VMAs or something to be more Morrison-esque?
Re: Eddie solo songs
Posted: Sun March 09, 2014 4:45 am
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
stip wrote:But this experience is not like being at a party. To be honest, when done right (and they do it well) it is something much more akin to a revival. There is something a lot more profound, almost quasi-religious happening. The sublimation of the self into something larger, through the shared participatory experience of music. There are rock concert cliches in there as well (the drinking is stupid, but lets be honest, every time someone on this board uses pot slang to talk about how cool it is to smoke a joint they're doing the exact same thing), but no one is leaving a pearl jam concert thinking that this was awesome because Eddie toasted them with his bottle of wine.
And that shared experience does matter. Not only in terms of the crowd, but because of the relationship it creates with the band. Kevin Davis is a talented musician. Maybe he just wants to show up and watch a master craftsmen ply his trade. But I have no musical talent of my own, and so being invited into the process means something to me.
It's hard to have a quasi-religious experience when 75% of the audience is wearing a baseball jersey, swigging beer and swapping blowjob stories to the indiscernible, cavernous backdrop of Pearl Jam's pussy sound system.
Re: Eddie solo songs
Posted: Sun March 09, 2014 4:47 am
by dprival78
Lament wrote:Hasn't that always been his schtick? Wasn't that an early Dave A. accusation, that was pretending to be drunk at the VMAs or something to be more Morrison-esque?
has it? maybe.. but he wasn't always having a flunky fill empty wine bottles with fruit punch gatorade. I mean come on, really ed?
Re: Eddie solo songs
Posted: Sun March 09, 2014 4:48 am
by Lament
Re: Eddie solo songs
Posted: Sun March 09, 2014 4:50 am
by Lament
dprival78 wrote:Lament wrote:Hasn't that always been his schtick? Wasn't that an early Dave A. accusation, that was pretending to be drunk at the VMAs or something to be more Morrison-esque?
has it? maybe.. but he wasn't always having a flunky fill empty wine bottles with fruit punch gatorade. I mean come on, really ed?
I could've sworn there was a story like that...maybe in Five Against One? He was pretending to chug vodka and acting like a crazy drunk, and then when no one was looking he dropped the act to bitch out Dave A. about something, and Dave was stunned that he was suddenly sober so he checked the vodka bottle and it was just water.
Maybe I'm mis-remembering though.
Re: Eddie solo songs
Posted: Sun March 09, 2014 4:57 am
by 96583UP
i want to break something and ride an ostrich naked playing the harp
Re: Eddie solo songs
Posted: Sun March 09, 2014 4:58 am
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
Has anybody ever had the username "Dave's Not Here"?
Re: Eddie solo songs
Posted: Sun March 09, 2014 4:59 am
by dprival78
Lament wrote:dprival78 wrote:Lament wrote:Hasn't that always been his schtick? Wasn't that an early Dave A. accusation, that was pretending to be drunk at the VMAs or something to be more Morrison-esque?
has it? maybe.. but he wasn't always having a flunky fill empty wine bottles with fruit punch gatorade. I mean come on, really ed?
I could've sworn there was a story like that...maybe in Five Against One? He was pretending to chug vodka and acting like a crazy drunk, and then when no one was looking he dropped the act to bitch out Dave A. about something, and Dave was stunned that he was suddenly sober so he checked the vodka bottle and it was just water.
Maybe I'm mis-remembering though.
hmm.. and here I thought that Eddie only started turning lame in the last 6-7 years.
Re: Eddie solo songs
Posted: Sun March 09, 2014 4:59 am
by Lament
96583UP wrote:i want to break something and ride an ostrich naked playing the harp
Supposedly that's exactly what Ed did right after the above picture was taken and he was called out on a very close play at first.
Re: Eddie solo songs
Posted: Sun March 09, 2014 5:23 am
by 96583UP
Lament wrote:96583UP wrote:i want to break something and ride an ostrich naked playing the harp
Supposedly that's exactly what Ed did right after the above picture was taken and he was called out on a very close play at first.
Then BOB rushed to his aid like Rocky's trainer, spraying water into his mouth and rubbing his head; only instead of water it was dom perignon and instead of a towel it was thousand-dollar bills
then a johnny ramone themed golf cart swooped in and ferried Ed back to his gated hotel room community for some more productive sessions of playing the ukelele alone
Re: Eddie solo songs
Posted: Mon March 10, 2014 12:48 am
by hlniv
The Post-Riot Act increase in the listener-participatory live act is simply the Moneygrab at its finest.
It's all related to this fundamental.
When the live act was theater for the listener to take in, it bred the musicianship and the intensity.
When the live act is a forum for a pearl jam festival-revival, it will only be directed by what the band thinks the audience wants to hear, or in other words, what the audience will continue to fund.
Eddie Vedder solo
Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 6:34 pm
by Anders
I thought Eddie could get his own thread for his solo work.
Just saw the news from Pearl Jam:
«Eddie To Headline Innings Festival
We're excited to announce that Eddie will headline Innings Festival!
The 2-day music festival will take place at Tempe Beach Park & Arts Park in Tempe, Arizona on March 2nd and 3rd.
Eddie will headline on Sunday, March 3rd
The line-up will also include performances by Jimmy Eat World, Band of Horses, Liz Phair, Mat Kearney, and more.»
Re: Eddie solo songs
Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 6:56 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
BUMP
Re: Eddie solo songs
Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 7:43 pm
by bodysnatcher
predicted new songs:
Seventh Stretch
The Mound
Walk Off
Diamonds Are a Man's Best Friend
Harry Carried
Four Walls, or IV Walls, or Ivy Walls
The Wave
Re: Eddie solo songs
Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 7:46 pm
by Anders
Wouldn’t mind a new album that could match Into The Wild.
Re: Eddie solo songs
Posted: Wed October 31, 2018 8:21 am
by WtOB?
dprival78 wrote:Lament wrote:dprival78 wrote:Lament wrote:Hasn't that always been his schtick? Wasn't that an early Dave A. accusation, that was pretending to be drunk at the VMAs or something to be more Morrison-esque?
has it? maybe.. but he wasn't always having a flunky fill empty wine bottles with fruit punch gatorade. I mean come on, really ed?
I could've sworn there was a story like that...maybe in Five Against One? He was pretending to chug vodka and acting like a crazy drunk, and then when no one was looking he dropped the act to bitch out Dave A. about something, and Dave was stunned that he was suddenly sober so he checked the vodka bottle and it was just water.
Maybe I'm mis-remembering though.
hmm.. and here I thought that Eddie only started turning lame in the last 6-7 years.
it is common knowledge that ed was at his worst (personality-wise) from 93-94.
Re: Eddie solo songs
Posted: Wed October 31, 2018 8:38 am
by Anders
Strat wrote:IM currently spinning the Constitution Hall 98 show. Man alive. At times I agree with stip and other times I agree with everyone else. Im somewhere in the middle on it all but listening to this show you understand how amazing the band was live. At this point in their career the fan enthusiasm was something that could not be separated from the show because the performances were so good. Now the fan participation and enthusiasm comes from Ed "being a drunken bafoon and being lazy and toasting wine like a 16 year old". Whereas "in their prime" the fan could literally not help but have a transcendental experience due to how incredible the band were performing their craft.
This post is a modern classic.
