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Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural
Posted: Mon January 20, 2014 7:02 pm
by chinofstone
cutuphalfdead wrote:I, for one, love the muted distance of the songs on Binaural. The loudness, while still feeling pushed away. There's something intense going on that you're not quite able to touch. But that fits in with the entire theme of the record. Even the artwork is trying to portray a sense of immense power separated by an incredibly vast distance. This is an album of muted rage, and that shows in not just how they wrote the songs, but how the recordings were constructed.
Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural
Posted: Mon January 20, 2014 7:14 pm
by Anders
cutuphalfdead wrote:Not really.
Well, I guess it's a matter of taste, good taste and bad taste.
I still think Gone would have been a five star song made properly on Binaural.
Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural
Posted: Mon January 20, 2014 7:23 pm
by Norah
Eh, the gas in your tank would still feel like money in the bank.
Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural
Posted: Mon January 20, 2014 7:30 pm
by Anders
Have you never had that feeling? Getting out of a bad situation?
Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural
Posted: Mon January 20, 2014 7:35 pm
by Norah
Yeah, but I relate to shitty songs all the time.
Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural
Posted: Mon January 20, 2014 7:39 pm
by Lament
I relate to terrible songs and am constantly leaving bad situations for new (bad) situations, and I still think that line is terrible. It captures/says nothing about the sentiment he's trying to express in the rest of the song; It's like he just wanted to stick in a stupid rhyme about gas. And I say that as someone who thinks that "I will be what I could be once I get out of this town" from the next verse is one of Ed's best post-RA lines.
Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural
Posted: Mon January 20, 2014 7:43 pm
by Anders
In the far off distance
As my tail-lights fade
No one thinks to witness
But they will someday
Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural
Posted: Mon January 20, 2014 7:43 pm
by Norah
Exactly, just awful.
Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural
Posted: Mon January 20, 2014 7:48 pm
by McParadigm
"No one thinks to witness, but they will someday," in that context is the type of line that sounds like it's saying something really profound and provocative, but it really doesn't add up to anything more than just kind of moody self-importance. It's like the 'run away from your problems' equivalent of "THEN you'll be sorry!"
Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural
Posted: Mon January 20, 2014 7:51 pm
by Lament
"No one thinks to witness" is almost as terrible as the "gas in my tank..." line.
No one fucking thinks to witness anything. You just do.
Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural
Posted: Mon January 20, 2014 7:53 pm
by Norah
The three of us have a great string of avatars.
Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural
Posted: Mon January 20, 2014 8:02 pm
by Lament
It's true.
Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural
Posted: Mon January 20, 2014 8:09 pm
by Anders
McParadigm wrote:"No one thinks to witness, but they will someday," in that context is the type of line that sounds like it's saying something really profound and provocative, but it really doesn't add up to anything more than just kind of moody self-importance. It's like the 'run away from your problems' equivalent of "THEN you'll be sorry!"
No, it's like leaving your home town after a bad childhood, but having enough guts to think that one day things will be better. Once you get out of this town, you will turn it around. They might not notice now, but they will. That's a great attitude to have.
Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural
Posted: Mon January 20, 2014 8:11 pm
by Norah
Anders wrote:McParadigm wrote:"No one thinks to witness, but they will someday," in that context is the type of line that sounds like it's saying something really profound and provocative, but it really doesn't add up to anything more than just kind of moody self-importance. It's like the 'run away from your problems' equivalent of "THEN you'll be sorry!"
No, it's like leaving your home town after a bad childhood, but having enough guts to think that one day things will be better. Once you get out of this town, you will turn it around. They might not notice now, but they will. That's a great attitude to have.
Yeah, AND THEN THEY'LL BE SORRY!
Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural
Posted: Mon January 20, 2014 8:14 pm
by Lament
Anders wrote:They might not notice now, but they will. That's a great attitude to have.
No, it's not. It's an incredibly unhealthy attitude.
Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural
Posted: Mon January 20, 2014 8:15 pm
by Anders
A bit more poetic than that.
Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural
Posted: Mon January 20, 2014 8:18 pm
by Anders
Lament wrote:Anders wrote:They might not notice now, but they will. That's a great attitude to have.
No, it's not. It's an incredibly unhealthy attitude.
I can't agree. I think you are probably looking at it from an entirely different angle than me. It's typical Eddie Vedder really.
Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural
Posted: Mon January 20, 2014 8:19 pm
by Lament
It's kind of impressive that Ed wrote a less mature song about leaving a bad situation in his forties than he did in his twenties when he wrote Rearviewmirror.
Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural
Posted: Mon January 20, 2014 8:20 pm
by Heathen
cutuphalfdead wrote:Anders wrote:McParadigm wrote:"No one thinks to witness, but they will someday," in that context is the type of line that sounds like it's saying something really profound and provocative, but it really doesn't add up to anything more than just kind of moody self-importance. It's like the 'run away from your problems' equivalent of "THEN you'll be sorry!"
No, it's like leaving your home town after a bad childhood, but having enough guts to think that one day things will be better. Once you get out of this town, you will turn it around. They might not notice now, but they will. That's a great attitude to have.
Yeah, AND THEN THEY'LL BE SORRY!
That's still a bit too much ambiguous. I wish that line had the unequivocalness of Unemployable's "locker where he kept his things".
Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural
Posted: Mon January 20, 2014 8:22 pm
by Lament
Anders wrote:I can't agree. I think you are probably looking at it from an entirely different angle than me. It's typical Eddie Vedder really.
I agree that it's typical Eddie Vedder, but that doesn't mean it's not an unbelievably unhealthy attitude.