Let the drummer debate continue!

[harmless]

Hey fella, it's a gross job but somebody's gotta do it.

[stip]

That's so gross, in so many ways.

probably just 2 ways.

[Jorge]

That's so gross, in so many ways.

probably just 2 ways.

I count eight.

[darth_vedder]

Sorry, late to the "punk" thing...Man, I like it. I guess I don't go out of my way to listen to it, but the whole genre is so wide, but I feel it's being boiled down to just "it's fast". While that it true, a lot of it has rockabilly influence, and reggae, and even dub. A lot of those guys credit the Kinks as a big influence. The Clash were kinda all over the place. The Ramones played fast, but also had some California Surf sound in their music. It's not all just screaming and playing fast.

[darth_vedder]

That's not to say I don't like the "fast" punk. I do.

Love this number:

[harmless]

Sorry, late to the "punk" thing...Man, I like it. I guess I don't go out of my way to listen to it, but the whole genre is so wide, but I feel it's being boiled down to just "it's fast". While that it true

That's as far as I got.

[harmless]

Sorry, late to the "punk" thing...Man, I like it. I guess I don't go out of my way to listen to it, but the whole genre is so wide, but I feel it's being boiled down to just "it's fast". While that it true, a lot of it has rockabilly influence, and reggae, and even dub. A lot of those guys credit the Kinks as a big influence. The Clash were kinda all over the place. The Ramones played fast, but also had some California Surf sound in their music. It's not all just screaming and playing fast.

I said it in the context of Matt Cameron. I'm a drummer. I don't care how interesting the stuff on top is, by and large, or what influences the music has. I always feel sorry for the drummer of a punk band. His job is unequivocally boring. Unless he's passionate about punk and then he's probably thrilled to death that he gets to perform 23 times the same thing every night during a tour.

[darth_vedder]

Sorry, late to the "punk" thing...Man, I like it. I guess I don't go out of my way to listen to it, but the whole genre is so wide, but I feel it's being boiled down to just "it's fast". While that it true

That's as far as I got.

It's not all fast!

[digster]

He has a point. There's a lot more to punk then its' speed. There's a lot of punk that's not fast at all. I do wonder if, when we're talking about punk on the board, we're more talking more about the punk style that PJ draws from and covers, which typically is the barre chord heavy, loud, sloppy and fast variety.

[EJ]

I used to like Adam & The Ants when I was a kid. May I be of assistance in this "punk" debate?

[darth_vedder]

Rockabilly influence:

[Heathen]

I used to like Adam & The Ants when I was a kid. May I be of assistance in this "punk" debate?

I like that song that goes Dog Eat Dog Eat Dog Eat Dog Eat Dog Eat Dog Eat Dog Eat Dog Eat Dog, can't think of its name right now

[Jorge]

I always feel sorry for the drummer of a punk band. His job is unequivocally boring. Unless he's passionate about punk and then he's probably thrilled to death that he gets to perform 23 times the same thing every night during a tour.

Of course there are exceptions to this, but it does tend to be a kind of playing that works towards the song rather than a showcase of the drummer's abilities. I'm fine with that-- like I said before, to me punk rock is just the ultimate pop music.

[stip]

That's so gross, in so many ways.

probably just 2 ways.

I count eight.

you must be 4 times as discerning as me, then

[harmless]

I like examples of all of the off-shoots of Punk:

New Wave
Psychobilly
Ska
New Romantic
Hardcore
Grunge

All of the above. I just don't like straight-up punk.

[harmless]

I always feel sorry for the drummer of a punk band. His job is unequivocally boring. Unless he's passionate about punk and then he's probably thrilled to death that he gets to perform 23 times the same thing every night during a tour.

Of course there are exceptions to this, but it does tend to be a kind of playing that works towards the song rather than a showcase of the drummer's abilities. I'm fine with that-- like I said before, to me punk rock is just the ultimate pop music.

And I totally get that. Most punk fans I've met love it because it's the ultimate kick-back music. With a beer and whatever your chosen snack is and maybe a bong and a game of Top Trumps. And it's got to be loud. I totally get that. And in those contexts, I can enjoy it.

Edit: I also like your evaluation of the purpose of the playing. Punk drummers, I think, tend to be really passionate about punk and totally happy to sink into the arsenal of the band. I liked Dave A because he was a showoff I think.

[stip]

platy/harmless: please migrate to this thread and teach me.

[Heathen]

I like examples of all of the off-shoots of Punk:

New Wave
Psychobilly
Ska
New Romantic
Hardcore
Grunge

All of the above. I just don't like straight-up punk.

man don't get me started on ska

DON'T

[stip]

i despise ska, too. Look at how much we have in common after all.

[Heathen]

Common hatred is the most solid bond