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Re: Alex Jones, Food Babe, AntiVax and other such Woo

Posted: Fri April 10, 2015 5:04 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Green Habit wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Green Habit wrote:TOXINZZZZZ
Wes C. Addle post
I pulled that from earlier in this thread.
I missed that one.

Re: Alex Jones, Food Babe, AntiVax and other such Woo

Posted: Fri April 10, 2015 11:31 pm
by B
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Re: Alex Jones, Food Babe, AntiVax and other such Woo

Posted: Mon April 13, 2015 4:33 am
by Green Habit
This was a deliciously brutal and thorough takedown. :thumbsup:

The "Food Babe" Blogger Is Full of Shit

Re: Alex Jones, Food Babe, AntiVax and other such Woo

Posted: Wed June 10, 2015 2:11 am
by LetMeSleep

Re: Alex Jones, Food Babe, AntiVax and other such Woo

Posted: Tue June 23, 2015 12:57 am
by Green Habit
Oh man, this headline is pathetically awesome.

https://www.yahoo.com/health/7-11-and-w ... 23142.html

7-11 and Wegmans Bottled Water Recalled Due to E. Coli Concerns

Re: Alex Jones, Food Babe, AntiVax and other such Woo

Posted: Tue July 14, 2015 6:33 pm
by B
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Re: Alex Jones, Food Babe, AntiVax and other such Woo

Posted: Tue July 14, 2015 7:31 pm
by Green Habit
Can't say I've ever seen those kinds of piercings before.

Re: Alex Jones, Food Babe, AntiVax and other such Woo

Posted: Tue July 14, 2015 8:17 pm
by bada
Green Habit wrote:This was a deliciously brutal and thorough takedown. :thumbsup:

The "Food Babe" Blogger Is Full of Shit

I never though organic food was more nutritious but I thought the (assumed) lack of pesticides and antibiotics would be beneficial but according to this I guess that's not the case?

Re: Alex Jones, Food Babe, AntiVax and other such Woo

Posted: Tue July 14, 2015 8:32 pm
by Green Habit
bada wrote:
Green Habit wrote:This was a deliciously brutal and thorough takedown. :thumbsup:

The "Food Babe" Blogger Is Full of Shit
I never though organic food was more nutritious but I thought the (assumed) lack of pesticides and antibiotics would be beneficial but according to this I guess that's not the case?
From the article:
--"The word "toxic" has a meaning, and that is "having the effect of a poison." Anything can be poisonous depending on the dose. Enough water can even be poisonous in the right quantity (and can cause a condition called hyponatremia)."
--"Hari claims going organic will save you from pesticides, but organic farming uses pesticides too. Some of them are far more toxic than conventional pesticides. (Remember, the dose makes the poison. Neither apple would have enough pesticide by the time it reaches market to be harmful.)"

It's for this reason why I'm starting to think that the USDA should do away with the organic label, and this goes back to something I was discussing with B earlier in this thread. Replacing it with a table that states the explicit processes that weren't used would be actually be informative. But of course, most people are lazy and just want to take comfort in a shiny label with one seven-letter word.

Now, antibiotics are something I actually do have a concern about, though that concern is not so much food-related as it is the rise of superbacteria.

Re: Alex Jones, Food Babe, AntiVax and other such Woo

Posted: Tue July 14, 2015 8:33 pm
by B
Green Habit wrote:Can't say I've ever seen those kinds of piercings before.
That's because the cancer-curing-industrial-complex doesn't want you to see them! :roll:

Re: Alex Jones, Food Babe, AntiVax and other such Woo

Posted: Tue July 14, 2015 8:35 pm
by B
Green Habit wrote:
bada wrote:
Green Habit wrote:This was a deliciously brutal and thorough takedown. :thumbsup:

The "Food Babe" Blogger Is Full of Shit
I never though organic food was more nutritious but I thought the (assumed) lack of pesticides and antibiotics would be beneficial but according to this I guess that's not the case?
From the article:
--"The word "toxic" has a meaning, and that is "having the effect of a poison." Anything can be poisonous depending on the dose. Enough water can even be poisonous in the right quantity (and can cause a condition called hyponatremia)."
--"Hari claims going organic will save you from pesticides, but organic farming uses pesticides too. Some of them are far more toxic than conventional pesticides. (Remember, the dose makes the poison. Neither apple would have enough pesticide by the time it reaches market to be harmful.)"

It's for this reason why I'm starting to think that the USDA should do away with the organic label, and this goes back to something I was discussing with B earlier in this thread. Replacing it with a table that states the explicit processes that weren't used would be actually be informative. But of course, most people are lazy and just want to take comfort in a shiny label with one seven-letter word.

Now, antibiotics are something I actually do have a concern about, though that concern is not so much food-related as it is the rise of superbacteria.
What about the philosophy that for every organic product I buy, a few less poor laborers are being dowsed with pesticides while they pick my food?

Re: Alex Jones, Food Babe, AntiVax and other such Woo

Posted: Tue July 14, 2015 8:39 pm
by nyquillyn
Not stuffing your body (and your kids) full of antibiotics is simple science, really. Your body needs to learn to fend for itself.

Re: Alex Jones, Food Babe, AntiVax and other such Woo

Posted: Tue July 14, 2015 8:46 pm
by Kaius
I don't even know what to eat anymore.

Re: Alex Jones, Food Babe, AntiVax and other such Woo

Posted: Tue July 14, 2015 8:57 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Kaius wrote:I don't even know what to eat anymore.
we regular joes are adrift in a sea of confusion

Re: Alex Jones, Food Babe, AntiVax and other such Woo

Posted: Tue July 14, 2015 9:02 pm
by Green Habit
B wrote:What about the philosophy that for every organic product I buy, a few less poor laborers are being dowsed with pesticides while they pick my food?
[O]rganic farming uses pesticides too. Some of them are far more toxic than conventional pesticides.

Re: Alex Jones, Food Babe, AntiVax and other such Woo

Posted: Tue July 14, 2015 9:02 pm
by Green Habit
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Kaius wrote:I don't even know what to eat anymore.
we regular joes are adrift in a sea of confusion
Just eat whatever the fuck you want to eat. :)

Re: Alex Jones, Food Babe, AntiVax and other such Woo

Posted: Wed July 15, 2015 12:06 am
by B
Green Habit wrote:
B wrote:What about the philosophy that for every organic product I buy, a few less poor laborers are being dowsed with pesticides while they pick my food?
[O]rganic farming uses pesticides too. Some of them are far more toxic than conventional pesticides.
Classic B. :shake:

Re: Alex Jones, Food Babe, AntiVax and other such Woo

Posted: Wed July 15, 2015 1:52 pm
by Green Habit
I don't always agree with Will Saletan, but this was awesome.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_an ... rrors.html

Re: Alex Jones, Food Babe, AntiVax and other such Woo

Posted: Wed July 15, 2015 2:20 pm
by nyquillyn
Green Habit wrote:I don't always agree with Will Saletan, but this was awesome.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_an ... rrors.html
Yeah, that's good.

I'm constantly surprised by people who go on and on about the antibiotics in their food and how dangerous it is, but will start a regime of antibiotics at the first sign of a sniffle. There are more antibiotics in a few rounds from your doctor than you'll ever get for the food you eat.

Re: Alex Jones, Food Babe, AntiVax and other such Woo

Posted: Wed July 15, 2015 3:32 pm
by bada
My 4 year old got C Diff last winter. It was truly awful and I guess very rare in children. He had a pretty bad chronic sinus infection and the family doctor just kept prescribing antibiotics. We went along with it even though I knew it wasn't a good idea and it went really bad. We had to rush him to the emergency room. He was shitting blood every few minutes and was in really bad pain. He had to take some horrible medicine 4 times a day for a few weeks but we got very lucky and he got better. I guess there was a good chance the medicine might not work and could have been fatal. We switched doctors and they are great there I wish we did it earlier. I guess moral of the story is be careful with antibiotics.