Red Mosquito

surfndestroy wrote:

mastaflatch wrote:

BigRedLedbetter wrote:Tour please!

Won't happen!

edit: Gilmour will tour though.

Your post about the album has me very excited to get it.

You really think Gilmour will tour? Even without a new Gilmour album? It would seem odd for him to tour with having had no new Gilmour music since On An Island in 2006. He seems pretty happy with his current, pretty much retired phase of life. I do hope you're right.

He sort of took a break from recording his own album to complete The Endless River. If I remember correctly, Wright will be featured on it too and Mason will drum on at least one song. He also said that it would be quite different from OAI. Supposed to come out next year.

mastaflatch wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:

mastaflatch wrote:

BigRedLedbetter wrote:Tour please!

Won't happen!

edit: Gilmour will tour though.

Your post about the album has me very excited to get it.

You really think Gilmour will tour? Even without a new Gilmour album? It would seem odd for him to tour with having had no new Gilmour music since On An Island in 2006. He seems pretty happy with his current, pretty much retired phase of life. I do hope you're right.

He sort of took a break from recording his own album to complete The Endless River. If I remember correctly, Wright will be featured on it too and Mason will drum on at least one song. He also said that it would be quite different from OAI. Supposed to come out next year.

Awesome. Thanks for that update.

i was able to pick this up early over the weekend.

man, this is better than i could have hoped for. it's not going to be regarded as one of the great pink floyd albums or anything, but as a coda to their career it is damn near perfect. it reminds me of the last r.e.m. record in that every phase of their recorded output is represented in some way or another. my only complaint is that i wish some of these tracks went on just a bit longer- in some places it feels like the groove just got going before the ripcord was pulled to segue into the next track. if i was in a tribute band i'd take a segment like eyes to pearls and jam the fuck out of it.

pleasantly surprised, and i am hoping more listens yield more discoveries.

Would be cool if some major fan would combine this album and the Divison Bell into one.

Very nice how they deliberately tipped the cap to other albums/stages of their career. For example, 'It's What We Do' basically starts just like 'Shine On.' The. And makes it obvious. The whole album is like a scavenger hunt in this way.

For sure, it won't go down as one of the greats. At its worst, it's a little too New Age/Synthy, and is a little repetitive on some of the minor chord grooves... At its best, it's a perfect homage to Rick Wright, as well as the PF past.

I'm picking up on more subtleties with each listen, and in a perfect world, they would have collaborated with Roger somehow for the final song. For what it is, though, I'm very happy with it.

In other words, LV would hate it!

I'm getting memed in music threads now?

Wasn't it you who said you can't listen to anything slow anymore? If not, then my apologies.

Note to self: Must play nice in music threads.

Iholdthepain wrote:Wasn't it you who said you can't listen to anything slow anymore? If not, then my apologies.

Note to self: Must play nice in music threads.

Ha, you're actually totally right. I would probably be bored by this album.

Carry on.

Didn't do much for me.

McParadigm wrote:Didn't do much for me.

But, it makes for good background music

Heathen wrote:

McParadigm wrote:Didn't do much for me.

But, it makes for good background music

Heathen wrote:

McParadigm wrote:Didn't do much for me.

But, it makes for good background music

A lot of it brings to mind the worst elements of Floyd...that easy listening elevator music quality that was their least flattering side. Also, the lyrics are shitty.

I like it just fine, I just feel like it's overselling it a bit to trumpet it as a new album. It really just feels like an ambient take on a lot of the musical themes from the Division Bell, which is really what it started as, plus a few little nods to earlier PF stuff. Very nice, but better suited to a bonus disc in a Division Bell reissue than a "new album."

mray10 wrote:I like it just fine, I just feel like it's overselling it a bit to trumpet it as a new album. It really just feels like an ambient take on a lot of the musical themes from the Division Bell, which is really what it started as, plus a few little nods to earlier PF stuff. Very nice, but better suited to a bonus disc in a Division Bell reissue than a "new album."

If Floyd had had any way to justify a Tracks/Bootleg Series/Orphans style box of unreleased songs and rarities, this would have made a fabaroo fourth disc. But just as Bruce's latter-years disc on Tracks would have felt really stupid as a standalone and not part of a larger story, this disc feels lonely and lifeless.

I disagree.

From my perspective, this is a fairly strong collection of music. Calling this a bunch of outtakes is a bit disingenuous - yeah, most of it was cut during jam sessions in '93 but it's so different from what ended up on The Division Bell that it doesn't really matter when it was primarly recorded. Also, the work of putting it all together and overdubbings and re-recordings make it a contemporary enough piece to me.

This is also a ballsy move from them to release this as an album proper. This is a mostly instrumental album consisting of 4 long pieces. Looking back on it, they should have simply made four tracks out of it and just let the subdivisions there in title only (à la Atom Heart Mother or A Saucerful of Secrets). As it is, the whole "continuous flow" of music that Gilmour talked about might just get lost upon the ipod users, which is too bad.

There are a lot of beautiful moments on this and whoever thinks that this is wallpaper or elevator music should at least give this a fair listen. Sum and Skins harken back to pre-DSOTM noisy experimentations, the Allons-Y(1)-->Autumn 68-->Allons-Y(2)-->Talkin' Hawkins bit is pretty fucking great, so is Side 4 from which I could take or leave the proper song (I like it alright but it kind of breaks the spell).

People (me included) used to complain about the lyrics on post-Waters Floyd albums. Now, they release their strongest musical effort since The Wall and some people make the association instrumental music = muzak (I think that this comparison has been made about PF since the Dark Side days anyway). I'll happily take that "muzak" over pedestrian pop tarts that are hailed as the new geniuses of this generation. My advice: dim the lights, smoke a bowl, sip a fine wine and crank it up. Apparently this album has a dynamic range of 11 and uses no compression btw.

I think its pretty good. It's better than I thought it would be. Is it a good final Floyd send-off? Well, that's actually what it is! I hear nods to pretty much every period of their past. And I think that's pretty cool actually.

Btw, the "dim the lights, smoke a bowl, and sip a fine wine..." advice for this is just great!

There are some brilliant moments for sure. Is it comparable to Dark Side? No, not really. Not much else is though...

mastaflatch wrote:From my perspective, this is a fairly strong collection of music...

This is also a ballsy move from them to release this as an album proper...

mastaflatch, i love your enthusiasm and I'm happy for you that you're enjoying this. I dont feel the same (yet). I wasn't expecting much; as i said previously, i was expecting b-side soundscapes from DB, and this is basically what this 'album' boils down to. I dont see anything new or experimental about this. I actually think it's laughable to call any of this experimental or ground breaking. to me its a bunch of rehashed sounds from previous albums / songs (as already mentioned, i hear shine on, brick in the wall, us/them...) anyone who knows PF will instantly recognize the pedal steel and synth sounds on this album, but unlike the classics that these songs are emulating/ripping off, these songs just boring.

I was afraid this was going to be the worst of The Division Bell. I was ready for mellow but the guitar work came as a pleasant surprise. I think there's some really good stuff on here that would be great live. It's all tastefully done and acts as a well presented, fond goodbye to Wright and the band. All that said, I think this would have worked better as a companion disc in The Division Bell box set.