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Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed September 21, 2016 4:08 pm
by Norah
2000 Patriot or GTFO

TFC YL or GTFO

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed September 21, 2016 5:18 pm
by chuck taylor
Kevin Davis wrote:
hlniv wrote:Count me in as a vote for these:

Yellow Ledbetter from Tibetan Freedom show
Matt performance of Black
SOLAT Melbourne 98
Using performances that are more unique, and less "definitive"

Also, i caught a bit of the London, Ontario 2005 show this morning on Sirius (even though it was labeled as 6-28-03?? - took me a while to find the right show). First off, they performed everything outstanding. They were really peaking in 2005. But, importantly for this thread, the version of Hard to Imagine from this show needs to be nominated. I was at the Chicago '09 show, and that version was great, too, but this is when the song was still nuanced and becoming mature. The perfect blend. Check it out.

And, please, please, please, use a Present Tense when the first verse/chorus was soft and meaningful, before Eddie starting yelling the first chorus.
I've been going through the '05 shows and listened to London earlier this week on the walk to and from work. It's an immaculate show, and has been one of my favorites for a long time. The "Off He Goes" has one of my favorite EV vocal moments: When he sings "...and he's still strong," he does this vaguely gymnastic thing with his voice that I would never think he'd be capable of pulling off with such dexterity. Worth considering for the comp if no Jack versions are suitable.
I really love the "My whole life, with just one man, one man" tag on Betterman from this show. Ed really got into it.

The 2005 shows are really good across the board, but I think their initial mp3-only release, followed by the sound of the FLACs released last year, prevent them from from getting more respect. As RB said earlier, Matt's drums just aren't quite there, and the front of the mix (lead guitars, vocals) is washed out by what feels like a cold, metallic, echoing space.

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed September 21, 2016 5:56 pm
by Hatfield
MattA75 wrote:The Toronto 2000 Dissident is great, especially at the end...Mike plays the outro bit a little differently but it really works well

As for some newer songs:

Come Back - either 5/27/06 or the Immagine in Cornice one
Not a great show and then it all came together for Come Back. Good call.

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed September 21, 2016 6:19 pm
by stip
chuck taylor wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
hlniv wrote:Count me in as a vote for these:

Yellow Ledbetter from Tibetan Freedom show
Matt performance of Black
SOLAT Melbourne 98
Using performances that are more unique, and less "definitive"

Also, i caught a bit of the London, Ontario 2005 show this morning on Sirius (even though it was labeled as 6-28-03?? - took me a while to find the right show). First off, they performed everything outstanding. They were really peaking in 2005. But, importantly for this thread, the version of Hard to Imagine from this show needs to be nominated. I was at the Chicago '09 show, and that version was great, too, but this is when the song was still nuanced and becoming mature. The perfect blend. Check it out.

And, please, please, please, use a Present Tense when the first verse/chorus was soft and meaningful, before Eddie starting yelling the first chorus.
I've been going through the '05 shows and listened to London earlier this week on the walk to and from work. It's an immaculate show, and has been one of my favorites for a long time. The "Off He Goes" has one of my favorite EV vocal moments: When he sings "...and he's still strong," he does this vaguely gymnastic thing with his voice that I would never think he'd be capable of pulling off with such dexterity. Worth considering for the comp if no Jack versions are suitable.
I really love the "My whole life, with just one man, one man" tag on Betterman from this show. Ed really got into it.

The 2005 shows are really good across the board, but I think their initial mp3-only release, followed by the sound of the FLACs released last year, prevent them from from getting more respect. As RB said earlier, Matt's drums just aren't quite there, and the front of the mix (lead guitars, vocals) is washed out by what feels like a cold, metallic, echoing space.

I think the 05 tour may be their best tour ever, and that is controlling for Matt's Even Flow drum solos.

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed September 21, 2016 6:34 pm
by lowlight79
Crazy Mary Phoenix 2000, There is no better version every played.

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed September 21, 2016 6:39 pm
by Kevin Davis
Monkey_Driven wrote:
MattA75 wrote:the 2003 Patriot sucks
You shut your dirty mouth.

Also, Calgary 2005 Thumbing My Way is incredible. :thumbsup:
Hell yeah! Lock it down, Ridley!

I like the music they cooked up for the 2003 "Patriot" as a standalone thing, but it didn't really absorb the original song very well -- they tried to convert a bog-standard 1-4-5 folkie song into this weird, sideways "Riot Act"-y jam, and they never really found the common ground between the two forms.

Rearrangements really are not this band's forte.

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed September 21, 2016 7:11 pm
by MattA75
lowlight79 wrote:Crazy Mary Phoenix 2000, There is no better version every played.
Baba from that show is top shelf as well

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed September 21, 2016 7:17 pm
by MattA75
Breakerfall - 8/27/00 Saratoga
Whipping - 10/30/00 Sacramento
Help Help - 7/2/03 Mansfield

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed September 21, 2016 8:37 pm
by EJ
Insignificance - Koln 2000
NAIS- Nurnberg 2000

Not sure if the Chop Suey performances count for this. If so, then 1/2 Full from that one.

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed September 21, 2016 9:14 pm
by Monkey_Driven
1/2 Full is a great live song. Lots of good versions to choose from.

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed September 21, 2016 11:33 pm
by zoe1271
Wash 1992-06-06 Finsbury Park

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed September 21, 2016 11:36 pm
by stip
i havent heard it in forever but randall's island night one porch is pretty great

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 12:15 am
by Monkey_Driven
Any 2016 version of Corduroy...

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 1:15 am
by E.H. Ruddock
Monkey_Driven wrote:Any 2016 version of Corduroy...
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Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 2:14 am
by lowlight79
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:Any 2016 version of Corduroy...
:/
We will ban you if this is said again

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 2:20 am
by lowlight79
Others that I can think of are

Insignificance 8/24/00
Gonna see my friend 10/30/09
Johnny guitar Ridgefield?
Sonic reducer Atlanta 94

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 3:01 am
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
lowlight79 wrote:Gonna see my friend 10/30/09
Yes! Only good performance in that entire run, IMO.

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 3:07 am
by evenslow
Count me in for YL at TFC too. Mike's playing is fucking inspired on that and Ed's got a nice raspy quality to his voice.

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 3:48 am
by Leatherhead
Black Red Yellow MSG 5-21-2010

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 4:03 am
by Kevin Davis
I filled out about half of the spreadsheet tonight -- I'll send it over after I've had a chance to tinker with it a little more, there are a few performances I want to verify. Some songs I'll just leave to other pickers. "Soldier of Love" is not on the spreadsheet -- was this deliberate? For some reason, even if performance count doesn't justify it, I feel like it should be on the comp.

Also, my initial suggestion of using the Bridge School "Better Man" was terrible -- it's a novel version, but really messy. "Romanza" or bust.