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Re: Devices set me free (the gadgets thread)
Posted: Tue June 09, 2020 4:17 pm
by tragabigzanda
Naomi Klein wrote:"Clout is the values-free currency of the always-online age — both a substitute for hard cash as well as a conduit to it. Clout is a calculus not of what you do, but of how much bulk you-ness there is in the world. You get clout by playing the victim. You get clout by victimizing others. This is something that is understood by the left and the right. If influence sways, clout squats, taking up space for its own sake."
Re: Devices set me free (the gadgets thread)
Posted: Tue June 09, 2020 4:27 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Yeah, don't buy an apple product
Re: Devices set me free (the gadgets thread)
Posted: Tue June 09, 2020 4:31 pm
by tragabigzanda
Naomi Klein wrote:"Clout is the values-free currency of the always-online age — both a substitute for hard cash as well as a conduit to it. Clout is a calculus not of what you do, but of how much bulk you-ness there is in the world. You get clout by playing the victim. You get clout by victimizing others. This is something that is understood by the left and the right. If influence sways, clout squats, taking up space for its own sake."
Re: Devices set me free (the gadgets thread)
Posted: Tue June 09, 2020 4:33 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
tragabigzanda wrote:Not helpful
I think if you followed my advice, you'd find it would be helpful!
Re: Devices set me free (the gadgets thread)
Posted: Tue June 09, 2020 4:34 pm
by Jorge
tragabigzanda wrote:Ok RM, please help me pick out a new Macbook...
My 2015 Air is dying. I'm thinking I want a 16" Pro, because the extra screen area will be of benefit to my eyes while editing audio (which I do regularly), but there's also a decent likelihood that I'll be editing more video in the coming years.
Do I need a 32 or 64gb model, or is the standard 16gb 16" Pro good enough for some light-to-moderate Premiere editing?
Are the fan/heat issues with the new 16" Pro models really that bad? Are they considerably less in the 13" Pro models?
Anything else I should be aware of? I'd rather go a bit bigger and beefier than a bit lighter -- my current Premiere sessions are a drag on my CPU, and those are really light sessions. But then I'm not too keen on constant heat and fan noise.
Ugh.
I work on a 16 GB 2019 Pro and I do a lot of editing on Premiere and animating on AfterEffects that go beyond what most people would call "light-to-moderate" and honestly I've had no issues. No issues with heat so far either, but I have no real basis for comparison. This is my first Macbook
Re: Devices set me free (the gadgets thread)
Posted: Tue June 09, 2020 4:38 pm
by tragabigzanda
Naomi Klein wrote:"Clout is the values-free currency of the always-online age — both a substitute for hard cash as well as a conduit to it. Clout is a calculus not of what you do, but of how much bulk you-ness there is in the world. You get clout by playing the victim. You get clout by victimizing others. This is something that is understood by the left and the right. If influence sways, clout squats, taking up space for its own sake."
Re: Devices set me free (the gadgets thread)
Posted: Tue June 09, 2020 4:41 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
tragabigzanda wrote:That’s super helpful, thank you Jorge.
Sorry for being a dick, trag
Re: Devices set me free (the gadgets thread)
Posted: Tue June 09, 2020 6:35 pm
by bodysnatcher
tragabigzanda wrote:Ok RM, please help me pick out a new Macbook...
My 2015 Air is dying. I'm thinking I want a 16" Pro, because the extra screen area will be of benefit to my eyes while editing audio (which I do regularly), but there's also a decent likelihood that I'll be editing more video in the coming years.
Do I need a 32 or 64gb model, or is the standard 16gb 16" Pro good enough for some light-to-moderate Premiere editing?
Are the fan/heat issues with the new 16" Pro models really that bad? Are they considerably less in the 13" Pro models?
Anything else I should be aware of? I'd rather go a bit bigger and beefier than a bit lighter -- my current Premiere sessions are a drag on my CPU, and those are really light sessions. But then I'm not too keen on constant heat and fan noise.
Ugh.
my buddy just got a pretty stacked 16" MBP and has nothing but issues with it. he's been a 20+ year Apple user, and said this was by far the worst Apple product he's purchased. So average that with Jorge's review and you have a typical internet review here.
Re: Devices set me free (the gadgets thread)
Posted: Tue June 09, 2020 6:46 pm
by tragabigzanda
Naomi Klein wrote:"Clout is the values-free currency of the always-online age — both a substitute for hard cash as well as a conduit to it. Clout is a calculus not of what you do, but of how much bulk you-ness there is in the world. You get clout by playing the victim. You get clout by victimizing others. This is something that is understood by the left and the right. If influence sways, clout squats, taking up space for its own sake."
Re: Devices set me free (the gadgets thread)
Posted: Tue June 09, 2020 6:50 pm
by The Argonaut
I'm with rudd on this one
Re: Devices set me free (the gadgets thread)
Posted: Tue June 09, 2020 7:38 pm
by bodysnatcher
bodysnatcher wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:Ok RM, please help me pick out a new Macbook...
My 2015 Air is dying. I'm thinking I want a 16" Pro, because the extra screen area will be of benefit to my eyes while editing audio (which I do regularly), but there's also a decent likelihood that I'll be editing more video in the coming years.
Do I need a 32 or 64gb model, or is the standard 16gb 16" Pro good enough for some light-to-moderate Premiere editing?
Are the fan/heat issues with the new 16" Pro models really that bad? Are they considerably less in the 13" Pro models?
Anything else I should be aware of? I'd rather go a bit bigger and beefier than a bit lighter -- my current Premiere sessions are a drag on my CPU, and those are really light sessions. But then I'm not too keen on constant heat and fan noise.
Ugh.
my buddy just got a pretty stacked 16" MBP and has nothing but issues with it. he's been a 20+ year Apple user, and said this was by far the worst Apple product he's purchased. So average that with Jorge's review and you have a typical internet review here.
Just checked in with him. He seems to have fixed the crashing issues he was having, and all remaining problems revolve around Adobe. Which is shit so it makes sense. He hasn’t had any overheating/fan issues. They fixed the thermals to correct previous throttling problems.
He said for what you are doing, go base model. And maybe up the storage if you want to. No need to max out RAM
or get a discrete gpu
Edit: if you are using Premier, maybe spring for discrete gpu if it’s in the budget
Re: Devices set me free (the gadgets thread)
Posted: Tue June 09, 2020 7:45 pm
by tragabigzanda
Naomi Klein wrote:"Clout is the values-free currency of the always-online age — both a substitute for hard cash as well as a conduit to it. Clout is a calculus not of what you do, but of how much bulk you-ness there is in the world. You get clout by playing the victim. You get clout by victimizing others. This is something that is understood by the left and the right. If influence sways, clout squats, taking up space for its own sake."
Re: Devices set me free (the gadgets thread)
Posted: Tue June 09, 2020 7:46 pm
by bodysnatcher
Just updated the post with an edit, in case you missed it
Re: Devices set me free (the gadgets thread)
Posted: Tue June 09, 2020 7:52 pm
by tragabigzanda
Naomi Klein wrote:"Clout is the values-free currency of the always-online age — both a substitute for hard cash as well as a conduit to it. Clout is a calculus not of what you do, but of how much bulk you-ness there is in the world. You get clout by playing the victim. You get clout by victimizing others. This is something that is understood by the left and the right. If influence sways, clout squats, taking up space for its own sake."
Re: Devices set me free (the gadgets thread)
Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 1:02 pm
by Strat
Hey ruddo remember when your non apple phone never works. Cool
Re: Devices set me free (the gadgets thread)
Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 2:03 pm
by tragabigzanda
Naomi Klein wrote:"Clout is the values-free currency of the always-online age — both a substitute for hard cash as well as a conduit to it. Clout is a calculus not of what you do, but of how much bulk you-ness there is in the world. You get clout by playing the victim. You get clout by victimizing others. This is something that is understood by the left and the right. If influence sways, clout squats, taking up space for its own sake."
Re: Devices set me free (the gadgets thread)
Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 2:05 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Strat wrote:Hey ruddo remember when your non apple phone never works. Cool
Nah that was just a simple setting on my end that I was too dumb to figure out. If I remember correctly, when we first started our texting group, you apple users had to change a setting too. We'll call this one a wash. Nice try though.
Re: Devices set me free (the gadgets thread)
Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 3:43 pm
by bodysnatcher
Strat wrote:Hey ruddo remember when your non apple phone never works. Cool
I legit thought Ruddo was developing schizophrenia at one point
Re: Devices set me free (the gadgets thread)
Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 12:51 pm
by Jorge
Jorge wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:Ok RM, please help me pick out a new Macbook...
My 2015 Air is dying. I'm thinking I want a 16" Pro, because the extra screen area will be of benefit to my eyes while editing audio (which I do regularly), but there's also a decent likelihood that I'll be editing more video in the coming years.
Do I need a 32 or 64gb model, or is the standard 16gb 16" Pro good enough for some light-to-moderate Premiere editing?
Are the fan/heat issues with the new 16" Pro models really that bad? Are they considerably less in the 13" Pro models?
Anything else I should be aware of? I'd rather go a bit bigger and beefier than a bit lighter -- my current Premiere sessions are a drag on my CPU, and those are really light sessions. But then I'm not too keen on constant heat and fan noise.
Ugh.
I work on a 16 GB 2019 Pro and I do a lot of editing on Premiere and animating on AfterEffects that go beyond what most people would call "light-to-moderate" and honestly I've had no issues. No issues with heat so far either, but I have no real basis for comparison. This is my first Macbook
Today I had my very first performance issue animating on AE. But I was using a bunch of weird plugins
Re: Devices set me free (the gadgets thread)
Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 1:49 pm
by tragabigzanda
Naomi Klein wrote:"Clout is the values-free currency of the always-online age — both a substitute for hard cash as well as a conduit to it. Clout is a calculus not of what you do, but of how much bulk you-ness there is in the world. You get clout by playing the victim. You get clout by victimizing others. This is something that is understood by the left and the right. If influence sways, clout squats, taking up space for its own sake."