Red Mosquito

dimejinky99 wrote:

spike wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:All caught up. This show is scratching all the itches for me. I fucking love it. I’m anxious to see how Luthen, Bix, Cyril, and Deidre meet their end

i think cyril turns into C3P0

I love this idea!!

C3PO is alive and working for Bail organa at this time



B2EMO being left behind is upsetting me. BUt I cant wait to see K2SO

B wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I'm seeing people (not so much here) complain about the pacing so far. I think it is brilliant. We don't need flashy laser battles every moment. I've only watched episode 4 of the new batch but thought it was beautiful.

I feel like the first episode in each chapter drags a bit, but by the end of the second, I'm in. I haven't watched Episode 6 yet, but if it's like #3, this pacing rocks.

I agree re: first chapters dragging.

it was the same with S1.

I will complain about episode 7 being slow and love episode 9.

I do think this series isnt grabbing me as much as series 1 just yet. Probably due to the time jumps.

Got Some wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

spike wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:All caught up. This show is scratching all the itches for me. I fucking love it. I’m anxious to see how Luthen, Bix, Cyril, and Deidre meet their end

i think cyril turns into C3P0

I love this idea!!

C3PO is alive and working for Bail organa at this time

shut up nerd

Got Some wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

spike wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:All caught up. This show is scratching all the itches for me. I fucking love it. I’m anxious to see how Luthen, Bix, Cyril, and Deidre meet their end

i think cyril turns into C3P0

I love this idea!!

C3PO is alive and working for Bail organa at this time

Because they don’t want to be seen as too “woke,” Disney only allows two queer characters per show now, so no C-3PO in this series, unfortunately.

Watched S2E5 last night, it was excellent. I have a new hope this style of world building and storytelling inspires more thoughtful approaches to the franchise in the future.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I'm seeing people (not so much here) complain about the pacing so far. I think it is brilliant. We don't need flashy laser battles every moment. I've only watched episode 4 of the new batch but thought it was beautiful.

Pacing definitely felt off to me for the first three episodes - a bit sluggish and drawn out. Some bizarre editing choices too.

Second batch of episodes was fantastic and back to the quality of season 1.

Can't help but think these 6 episodes would have worked better as 3 episodes. I'm ready for the decompression era to be over.

Got Some wrote:

B wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I'm seeing people (not so much here) complain about the pacing so far. I think it is brilliant. We don't need flashy laser battles every moment. I've only watched episode 4 of the new batch but thought it was beautiful.

I feel like the first episode in each chapter drags a bit, but by the end of the second, I'm in. I haven't watched Episode 6 yet, but if it's like #3, this pacing rocks.

I agree re: first chapters dragging.

it was the same with S1.

I will complain about episode 7 being slow and love episode 9.

I do think this series isnt grabbing me as much as series 1 just yet. Probably due to the time jumps.

this is where im at. So far, overall, a let down, though still enjoying it enough. Waiting for it to all come together before really making a judgement.

bada wrote:Can't help but think these 6 episodes would have worked better as 3 episodes. I'm ready for the decompression era to be over.

This is an industry wide problem, and I hate it, but this show is nowhere NEAR the worst offender.

I don't see the point in Andor hanging out with the SNL Californians skit guys in the first three or the French planet in the second three. It was all was for nothing. Cut all that. The show is called Andor and he's not really doing anything. Maybe merge some of the Mon parties. I like Bix but enough. Saw and his band look cool but I have no idea what they are talking about. I'm guessing the cold bitch is gonna burn the dude with mommy issues. It's not as intriguing as Season 1. It feels like it's treading water. The actor that plays Krennic is very good though he's a legit bad guy. Would have made a good Indy villain back in the 80's.

This show has earned my patience. I wouldn't be so brave as to say what's necessary or not until it has wrapped up.

At the risk of yet another dime/dct lecture, I think that the pointlessness of it is the point. They fight putting their lives at risk and accomplish nothing. IIRC, in S2E05 Andor even says something along the lines of "you're going to show them something they already know", and that's what Gilroy has done here. He's shown us 'normalized evil' and the inability of the Rebellion to deal with it in any meaningful way.

Bi_3 wrote:At the risk of yet another dime/dct lecture, I think that the pointlessness of it is the point. They fight putting their lives at risk and accomplish nothing. IIRC, in S2E05 Andor even says something along the lines of "you're going to show them something they already know", and that's what Gilroy has done here. He's shown us 'normalized evil' and the inability of the Rebellion to deal with it in any meaningful way.

Absolutely. And that is why im 100% sticking around as i do believe the payoff will be worth it. I just wish they weren't cramming all this into 1 final season and so many time jumps.

bada wrote:Can't help but think these 6 episodes would have worked better as 3 episodes. I'm ready for the decompression era to be over.

Decompression?

10 years ago these would be 24 episode seasons!

Bi_3 wrote:At the risk of yet another dime/dct lecture, I think that the pointlessness of it is the point. They fight putting their lives at risk and accomplish nothing. IIRC, in S2E05 Andor even says something along the lines of "you're going to show them something they already know", and that's what Gilroy has done here. He's shown us 'normalized evil' and the inability of the Rebellion to deal with it in any meaningful way.

Within the story a lot of these smaller outfits are effectively pointless for now. But Luthen has the correct and long view. If enough trouble is happening even in small factions galaxy wide, that’ll manifest into a much larger thing and fires for the empire to be trying to put out everywhere and they won’t be able. Not sure even cassian understands that yet or ever manages to.
All that said I have my doubts about Luthen and I’m wondering is he an imperial plant?
We know he’s gonna die but who’s gonna take him out? His assistant I reckon.

Intergalactic
Rebel
Alliance

IRA

It was right there all this time..

I think we get K2SO this week

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I think we get K2SO this week

Hope so.

Also if you guys haven’t already, the tales of the underworld series is up. Only a little through first episode and it’s gorgeous

dimejinky99 wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:At the risk of yet another dime/dct lecture, I think that the pointlessness of it is the point. They fight putting their lives at risk and accomplish nothing. IIRC, in S2E05 Andor even says something along the lines of "you're going to show them something they already know", and that's what Gilroy has done here. He's shown us 'normalized evil' and the inability of the Rebellion to deal with it in any meaningful way.

Within the story a lot of these smaller outfits are effectively pointless for now. But Luthen has the correct and long view. If enough trouble is happening even in small factions galaxy wide, that’ll manifest into a much larger thing and fires for the empire to be trying to put out everywhere and they won’t be able. Not sure even cassian understands that yet or ever manages to.
All that said I have my doubts about Luthen and I’m wondering is he an imperial plant?
We know he’s gonna die but who’s gonna take him out? His assistant I reckon.

luthen as an imperial plant would be a terrible choice

much more interesting as a pure rebel

spike wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:At the risk of yet another dime/dct lecture, I think that the pointlessness of it is the point. They fight putting their lives at risk and accomplish nothing. IIRC, in S2E05 Andor even says something along the lines of "you're going to show them something they already know", and that's what Gilroy has done here. He's shown us 'normalized evil' and the inability of the Rebellion to deal with it in any meaningful way.

Within the story a lot of these smaller outfits are effectively pointless for now. But Luthen has the correct and long view. If enough trouble is happening even in small factions galaxy wide, that’ll manifest into a much larger thing and fires for the empire to be trying to put out everywhere and they won’t be able. Not sure even cassian understands that yet or ever manages to.
All that said I have my doubts about Luthen and I’m wondering is he an imperial plant?
We know he’s gonna die but who’s gonna take him out? His assistant I reckon.

luthen as an imperial plant would be a terrible choice

much more interesting as a pure rebel

Yup. Luthen is the terrorist-adjacent "ends justify the means" rebel while Cassian is the "never forget who we're fighting for" type. I would not be surprised if he causes Bix's death which leads to Cassian killing him.