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Re: 2020 Tour (Rumors) (aka Gig A Ton) (aka Gigatour)

Posted: Sat January 18, 2020 1:19 pm
by CopperTom
Baltimore, New York, Nashville, St. Louis today.

Re: 2020 Tour (Rumors) (aka Gig A Ton) (aka Gigatour)

Posted: Sat January 18, 2020 1:30 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
CopperTom wrote:Baltimore, New York, Nashville, St. Louis today.
What time have the drawings been starting?

Re: 2020 Tour (Rumors) (aka Gig A Ton) (aka Gigatour)

Posted: Sat January 18, 2020 1:32 pm
by Chris_H_2
was there a priority of shows in play here? people are talking about how some of their requests for sections at shows that won are 4th and 5th priority whereas people are losing with 2nd priority (they even mentioned dragging shows to prioritize them). what did I miss? It wouldn’t have mattered for me anyway because I only requested 2 shows.

Also, I still have yet to get any email one way or another on Oakland 2. I thought that was done yesterday.

Re: 2020 Tour (Rumors) (aka Gig A Ton) (aka Gigatour)

Posted: Sat January 18, 2020 1:33 pm
by Simple Torture
CopperTom wrote:Baltimore, New York, Nashville, St. Louis today.
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Re: 2020 Tour (Rumors) (aka Gig A Ton) (aka Gigatour)

Posted: Sat January 18, 2020 1:38 pm
by Bi_3
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
CopperTom wrote:Baltimore, New York, Nashville, St. Louis today.
What time have the drawings been starting?

12:30ish


Copper, you have thoughts on the BA controversy?

Re: 2020 Tour (Rumors) (aka Gig A Ton) (aka Gigatour)

Posted: Sat January 18, 2020 1:46 pm
by CopperTom
Bi_3 wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
CopperTom wrote:Baltimore, New York, Nashville, St. Louis today.
What time have the drawings been starting?

12:30ish


Copper, you have thoughts on the BA controversy?
It worries me. I selected RES for all of my selections though. If a person gets rejected for a 2nd Priority BA, then no one should win a 3rd Priority BA, GA or RES. There are examples out there that contradict that very important detail. That defies the 10C lottery methodology. That's a major and serious issue.

The losses of entries with odds of 99% shouldn't happen. That's a failure of reporting, I guess.

Re: 2020 Tour (Rumors) (aka Gig A Ton) (aka Gigatour)

Posted: Sat January 18, 2020 1:51 pm
by Bi_3
CopperTom wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
CopperTom wrote:Baltimore, New York, Nashville, St. Louis today.
What time have the drawings been starting?

12:30ish


Copper, you have thoughts on the BA controversy?
It worries me. I selected RES for all of my selections though. If a person gets rejected for a 2nd Priority BA, then no one should win a 3rd Priority BA, GA or RES. There are examples out there that contradict that very important detail. That defies the 10C lottery methodology. That's a major and serious issue.

The losses of entries with odds of 99% shouldn't happen. That's a failure of reporting, I guess.
It could get bad for MSG if each option for BA is really treated as separate priorities

Re: 2020 Tour (Rumors) (aka Gig A Ton) (aka Gigatour)

Posted: Sat January 18, 2020 1:58 pm
by Bammer
Get in your car, bring your complaints with you, and hunt down Tim Bierman at:

1900 S. Corgiat Dr., Seattle, WA 98108

Re: 2020 Tour (Rumors) (aka Gig A Ton) (aka Gigatour)

Posted: Sat January 18, 2020 2:00 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Bi_3 wrote:
CopperTom wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
CopperTom wrote:Baltimore, New York, Nashville, St. Louis today.
What time have the drawings been starting?

12:30ish


Copper, you have thoughts on the BA controversy?
It worries me. I selected RES for all of my selections though. If a person gets rejected for a 2nd Priority BA, then no one should win a 3rd Priority BA, GA or RES. There are examples out there that contradict that very important detail. That defies the 10C lottery methodology. That's a major and serious issue.

The losses of entries with odds of 99% shouldn't happen. That's a failure of reporting, I guess.
It could get bad for MSG if each option for BA is really treated as separate priorities
It will probably be bad for Baltimore as well

Re: 2020 Tour (Rumors) (aka Gig A Ton) (aka Gigatour)

Posted: Sat January 18, 2020 2:09 pm
by Simple Torture
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Re: 2020 Tour (Rumors) (aka Gig A Ton) (aka Gigatour)

Posted: Sat January 18, 2020 2:36 pm
by 96583UP
wouldn’t the odds change after the first pull?

at that point, all the unfilled orders get pushed to the other shows, which then shrinks their odds further

Re: 2020 Tour (Rumors) (aka Gig A Ton) (aka Gigatour)

Posted: Sat January 18, 2020 2:44 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
This thread is pissing me off

Re: 2020 Tour (Rumors) (aka Gig A Ton) (aka Gigatour)

Posted: Sat January 18, 2020 2:46 pm
by Strat
I dont think ANYBODY knows how it works or what is going on.

best I can do now is just wait and hope for a couple confirmation emails today

Re: 2020 Tour (Rumors) (aka Gig A Ton) (aka Gigatour)

Posted: Sat January 18, 2020 2:50 pm
by Strat
Also, lets not forget, there are roughly 700,000 fan club members? what % of those actually post on the pit?

Re: 2020 Tour (Rumors) (aka Gig A Ton) (aka Gigatour)

Posted: Sat January 18, 2020 2:57 pm
by Bammer
Strat wrote:Also, lets not forget, there are roughly 700,000 fan club members? what % of those actually post on the pit?
The vocal minority

Re: 2020 Tour (Rumors) (aka Gig A Ton) (aka Gigatour)

Posted: Sat January 18, 2020 3:08 pm
by 96583UP
i wonder if the bots figured out a way to crack this

or maybe they just didn’t properly test / UAT the allocation algorithm before it went live

Re: 2020 Tour (Rumors) (aka Gig A Ton) (aka Gigatour)

Posted: Sat January 18, 2020 3:10 pm
by CopperTom
Strat wrote:Also, lets not forget, there are roughly 700,000 fan club members? what % of those actually post on the pit?
No. Only a fraction of the 700,000 10C numbers distributed are actually active.

Re: 2020 Tour (Rumors) (aka Gig A Ton) (aka Gigatour)

Posted: Sat January 18, 2020 3:12 pm
by Strat
CopperTom wrote:
Strat wrote:Also, lets not forget, there are roughly 700,000 fan club members? what % of those actually post on the pit?
No. Only a fraction of the 700,000 10C numbers distributed are actually active.
Well, i think my point still stands.

Re: 2020 Tour (Rumors) (aka Gig A Ton) (aka Gigatour)

Posted: Sat January 18, 2020 3:13 pm
by Bi_3
96583UP wrote:i wonder if the bots figured out a way to crack this

or maybe they just didn’t properly test / UAT the allocation algorithm before it went live
That would be tough. Most likely scenarios:

1.) Nothing is wrong and it's behaving as expected but people are complaining anyway
2.) The BA picks didnt change the posted odds, but otherwise the draws are working as expected
3.) BA is getting treated as one pick for GA and one pick for RES, so if you had BA and they we out of GA you have to wait until all the other picks at that priority are over before getting RES

Re: 2020 Tour (Rumors) (aka Gig A Ton) (aka Gigatour)

Posted: Sat January 18, 2020 3:16 pm
by CopperTom
Bi_3 wrote:
96583UP wrote:i wonder if the bots figured out a way to crack this

or maybe they just didn’t properly test / UAT the allocation algorithm before it went live
That would be tough. Most likely scenarios:

1.) Nothing is wrong and it's behaving as expected but people are complaining anyway
2.) The BA picks didnt change the post odds, but otherwise the draws are working as expected
3.) BA is getting treated as one pick for GA and one pick for RES, so if you had BA and they we out of GA you have to wait until all the other picks at that priority are over before getting RES
I’m leaning a bit towards 1 & 2. Results are close to expected with a few outliers. Honestly, I will lose my shit if I lose an entry that showed 99%. I can take losing, but I won’t be able to accept that.