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Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 1:48 am
by Kevin Davis
Homeboyd wrote:coptheriotact wrote:Kevin Davis wrote:S/T was the last album where I really felt like the live versions were transformative in any meaningful way.
I also struggled to find bootlegs that sounded good after 2006 but that might be just me
I think 2010 was about my limit for bootlegs. For better or worse many songs require Ed to do things he can no longer do. Doesn’t affect the live experience all that much but it’s very noticeable on bootlegs.
Pretty much exactly the same for me. I have a few boots from more recent years but 2010 was the last year I was really into it. There is a lot from that tour I really like, though.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 1:52 am
by Birds in Hell
Hatfield wrote:coptheriotact wrote:I like showbox Ed. I think stone hated that Ed
It settled on me that Dark Matter is a Matt song.
Are you sure about that?
Feels way too bonehead for Matt.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 1:55 am
by B
Birds in Hell wrote:Hatfield wrote:coptheriotact wrote:I like showbox Ed. I think stone hated that Ed
It settled on me that Dark Matter is a Matt song.
Are you sure about that?
Feels way too bonehead for Matt.
I thought it was a Matt song too.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 1:56 am
by dprival78
i wouldn't be shocked if wotman came up with this riff
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 2:02 am
by tragabigzanda
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 2:05 am
by Walker Bait
EJ wrote:i liked his ron jeremy phase

I'd forgotten about this pic. Lmao... thanks for putting THAT back in my brain.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 2:05 am
by liebzz
EJ wrote:i liked his ron jeremy phase

I liked the Eddie Vedder who wasn’t Eddie Vedder but Dave Kilminster playing with Eddie Vedder and Roger Waters at The Concert for Sandy Relief phase:

Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 2:10 am
by dprival78
Hopefully dark matter will inspire more Ed art all around the internet
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 2:19 am
by Fattie_Vedder
I like early evening Ed. Mid-afternoon Ed is insufferable.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 2:22 am
by bodysnatcher
B wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Hatfield wrote:coptheriotact wrote:I like showbox Ed. I think stone hated that Ed
It settled on me that Dark Matter is a Matt song.
Are you sure about that?
Feels way too bonehead for Matt.
I thought it was a Matt song too.
Don’t know how’s it’s credited, but Stone said it was a Matt song / riff / drum whatever
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 2:32 am
by Ms Harmless
maybe I like it because it's predominantly rhythm heavy; I wouldn't be surprised if it was a Matt song, as it clearly takes from Soundgarden and from You Are
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 2:35 am
by bodysnatcher
Dark Matt-er. It’s right there in the title.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 2:40 am
by Birds in Hell
bodysnatcher wrote:B wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Hatfield wrote:coptheriotact wrote:I like showbox Ed. I think stone hated that Ed
It settled on me that Dark Matter is a Matt song.
Are you sure about that?
Feels way too bonehead for Matt.
I thought it was a Matt song too.
Don’t know how’s it’s credited, but Stone said it was a Matt song / riff / drum whatever
Where was this?
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 2:42 am
by Strat
That riff is not that boneheaded. There's some very Matt stuff in it beyond the first portion the riff.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 2:46 am
by Homeboyd
Birds in Hell wrote:bodysnatcher wrote:B wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Hatfield wrote:coptheriotact wrote:I like showbox Ed. I think stone hated that Ed
It settled on me that Dark Matter is a Matt song.
Are you sure about that?
Feels way too bonehead for Matt.
I thought it was a Matt song too.
Don’t know how’s it’s credited, but Stone said it was a Matt song / riff / drum whatever
Where was this?
Someone posted a clip from PJ Radio a few pages back where Stone was talking about Dark Matter and said it was a Matt song...definitely has some Evacuation/You Are love child vibes to it.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 2:49 am
by Rangi Guy
Birds in Hell wrote:bodysnatcher wrote:B wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Hatfield wrote:coptheriotact wrote:I like showbox Ed. I think stone hated that Ed
It settled on me that Dark Matter is a Matt song.
Are you sure about that?
Feels way too bonehead for Matt.
I thought it was a Matt song too.
Don’t know how’s it’s credited, but Stone said it was a Matt song / riff / drum whatever
Where was this?
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 2:50 am
by Birds in Hell
Rangi Guy wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:bodysnatcher wrote:B wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Hatfield wrote:coptheriotact wrote:I like showbox Ed. I think stone hated that Ed
It settled on me that Dark Matter is a Matt song.
Are you sure about that?
Feels way too bonehead for Matt.
I thought it was a Matt song too.
Don’t know how’s it’s credited, but Stone said it was a Matt song / riff / drum whatever
Where was this?
Excellent, thanks.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 2:53 am
by smallest_oceans
Stone just leap frogged everyone in the age appearance stakes for this album cycle.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 2:54 am
by DDWJMUVW
I've settled on a 4 (for now).
It's so good to hear properly channeled energy (vs MYM, CDM). You can tell actually playing together makes a difference in the takes.
I like what mike does at the end of the chorus ("for someone else's mistake") - a subtle variation on the octave riff he's playing; happens both times around I believe - those little things are nice.
The pre chorus is absolutely the best part of this track. It's one of my favorite segments of any song going back quite a ways - ed's vocalization over this riff is slam dunk spot on and perfect for his register these days.
A couple things that would take this to a 5 for me:
- I wish there was just a touch more melody from ed in the chorus. I understand he's trying to emote, and that's ok with me, but even slightly more melody would have really made this jump up a notch. it's jus ta touch "yelly"
- An outro after the last chorus with just that riff and a couple Mike licks layered on top
Overall, this already ranks up there with my top Gig songs (DotC, WES). Will be interesting to see if this feeling sustains.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 2:59 am
by Strat
Strat wrote:That riff is not that boneheaded. There's some very Matt stuff in it beyond the first portion the riff.
Though I also recognize me and spennnos love for the guitar is vastly different lol