Red Mosquito

and some people actually go to shows just to hang out with these people?!

LetMeSleep wrote:I'm excited for LB as I hope that the 3 most immediate tracks have been heard and that the remaining 9 tracks will have a depth not seen/heard for nearly a decade.

But it appears to me that the band aren't willing/prepared to go to the places I want them to. I can't see a SoH, NAIS or You Are sitting next to LB or MYM.

I don't think they're particularly good at those kind of songs. They usually do atmospherics on songs that would be weak otherwise as a way to make them interesting. Inside Job could be considered as an atmospheric number by their standards without being a trick to fix a song but it really doesn't work very well.

harmless wrote:

broken iris wrote:

harmless wrote:

LetMeSleep wrote:I'm excited for LB as I hope that the 3 most immediate tracks have been heard and that the remaining 9 tracks will have a depth not seen/heard for nearly a decade.

But it appears to me that the band aren't willing/prepared to go to the places I want them to. I can't see a SoH, NAIS or You Are sitting next to LB or MYM.

The instrumental music on the tour vid, and the murky soundchecked song, could be any of those. But will they be? In terms of what kind of songs could sit next to one another, any are likely considering we have MYM on the same album as FD.

Thank you for not resorting to standard RM "I only ever listen to PJ so I can justify still posting here" judgement.

I wouldn't listen to PJ to justify posting here, I'd just post here.

Maybe FD will close the album. I dislike the transition from Johnny Guitar into JB but others don't seem to mind. JB has always stood out in a jarring way for me. When I got BS I listened to it as a whole for months, resisting retracking it but eventually I caved. But I like BS and still occasionally have a play. My hopes for LB are for the same.

Mine wrote:

LetMeSleep wrote:I'm excited for LB as I hope that the 3 most immediate tracks have been heard and that the remaining 9 tracks will have a depth not seen/heard for nearly a decade.

But it appears to me that the band aren't willing/prepared to go to the places I want them to. I can't see a SoH, NAIS or You Are sitting next to LB or MYM.

I don't think they're particularly good at those kind of songs. They usually do atmospherics on songs that would be weak otherwise as a way to make them interesting. Inside Job could be considered as an atmospheric number by their standards without being a trick to fix a song but it really doesn't work very well.

I don't get it. You're saying PJ use atmospherics as a gimmick but then saying Inside Job was more, but that it just didn't match up? To be fair, a lot of songs with atmospherics, even the best ones, could be made much plainer and more boring by taking the atmospherics away. Especially if they're just fairly standard structurally.

LetMeSleep wrote:

harmless wrote:

broken iris wrote:

harmless wrote:

LetMeSleep wrote:I'm excited for LB as I hope that the 3 most immediate tracks have been heard and that the remaining 9 tracks will have a depth not seen/heard for nearly a decade.

But it appears to me that the band aren't willing/prepared to go to the places I want them to. I can't see a SoH, NAIS or You Are sitting next to LB or MYM.

The instrumental music on the tour vid, and the murky soundchecked song, could be any of those. But will they be? In terms of what kind of songs could sit next to one another, any are likely considering we have MYM on the same album as FD.

Thank you for not resorting to standard RM "I only ever listen to PJ so I can justify still posting here" judgement.

I wouldn't listen to PJ to justify posting here, I'd just post here.

Maybe FD will close the album. I dislike the transition from Johnny Guitar into JB but others don't seem to mind. JB has always stood out in a jarring way for me. When I got BS I listened to it as a whole for months, resisting retracking it but eventually I caved. But I like BS and still occasionally have a play. My hopes for LB are for the same.

I would be happy for FD to close the album, because I think an album closer can afford to be tonally different than the rest of the album. I don't mind Johnny Guitar into Just Breathe. But I don't like the transition from whatever precedes Parachutes. I think Backspacer is a pretty consistent listen, so in terms of playing it back to back, the same again would be fine. But I'd like some of the songs to have more substance. I can't say any of the songs on Backspacer were more than very good. I want a few to be great this time.

inspired by design

theplatypus wrote:inspired by design

Designed by inspiration.

harmless wrote:

Mine wrote:

LetMeSleep wrote:I'm excited for LB as I hope that the 3 most immediate tracks have been heard and that the remaining 9 tracks will have a depth not seen/heard for nearly a decade.

But it appears to me that the band aren't willing/prepared to go to the places I want them to. I can't see a SoH, NAIS or You Are sitting next to LB or MYM.

I don't think they're particularly good at those kind of songs. They usually do atmospherics on songs that would be weak otherwise as a way to make them interesting. Inside Job could be considered as an atmospheric number by their standards without being a trick to fix a song but it really doesn't work very well.

I don't get it. You're saying PJ use atmospherics as a gimmick but then saying Inside Job was more, but that it just didn't match up? To be fair, a lot of songs with atmospherics, even the best ones, could be made much plainer and more boring by taking the atmospherics away. Especially if they're just fairly standard structurally.

Yup.
I think Inside Job was written as an atmospheric song while say NAIS wasn't. You don't need to go further than the intro to see evidence on that. It doesn't use any particular effects to achieve that but it drags and eventually goes nowhere. It's not an effect heavy atmospheric song. I do think they used atmospheric as a gimmick and this is how i always perceived those songs. It makes sense to me when compared to the rest of their catalogue. It's almost like something they have fun with once in a while.

LetMeSleep wrote:I'm excited for LB as I hope that the 3 most immediate tracks have been heard and that the remaining 9 tracks will have a depth not seen/heard for nearly a decade.

But it appears to me that the band aren't willing/prepared to go to the places I want them to. I can't see a SoH, NAIS or You Are sitting next to LB or MYM.

Green disease or get right?

I'm listening to 'All or None', thinking how ironic it is that the last song on the last great album was called 'All or None', but for the rest of their career I've been settling for 'some'.

theplatypus wrote:inspired by design

I've had 6 hours of sleep in 3 days and demand a 3 week grace period before being called out on shit like that

I adore All Or None. Just stunning delivery and great work from all.

And only Marker, Parachutes and Army Reserve come close (but not exceeding) the quality of All Or None.

harmless wrote:I'm listening to 'All or None', thinking how ironic it is that the last song on the last great album was called 'All or None', but for the rest of their career I've been settling for 'some'.

All or none is kinda boring, parachutes, come back, just breathe, and the end are all much better

Not thumbing my way boring, but still

stip wrote:I've had 6 hours of sleep in 3 days and demand a 3 week grace period before being called out on shit like that

That period of my life inspired my username. Sleep will come one day and it'll be just as good as you remember it.

stip wrote:

harmless wrote:I'm listening to 'All or None', thinking how ironic it is that the last song on the last great album was called 'All or None', but for the rest of their career I've been settling for 'some'.

All or none is kinda boring, parachutes, come back, just breathe, and the end are all much better

Come Back is so much more bland. The others are good but none of them approach All or None, which is packed with atmosphere, but I can understand that it's not the type of atmosphere you like.

Kid 1 wasn't too bad. I just can't imagine adding anothEr kid to the grind. We brought Mia home today but mom in law is over. Tuesday it begins for realz

stip wrote:Not thumbing my way boring, but still

I literally just don't understand. I love that song as well.

harmless wrote:

stip wrote:

harmless wrote:I'm listening to 'All or None', thinking how ironic it is that the last song on the last great album was called 'All or None', but for the rest of their career I've been settling for 'some'.

All or none is kinda boring, parachutes, come back, just breathe, and the end are all much better

Come Back is so much more bland. The others are good but none of them approach All or None, which is packed with atmosphere, but I can understand that it's not the type of atmosphere you like.

The atmosphere is fine. It is just a boring song

harmless wrote:

stip wrote:Not thumbing my way boring, but still

I literally just don't understand. I love that song as well.

Really nice lyrics at least