Red Mosquito

scrub12 wrote:DOTC runs at 4:25. River Cross around 3:30 (studio version may be different, obviously). That means we’re looking at 10 songs around 49 minutes. That’s still a longer run time than all of LB. I’m just hoping to avoid the short punky songs.

Of course, River Cross could be a completely different song for all we know.

Birds in Hell wrote:Dance of the Clairvoyants works because it's a strong song with good ideas which they committed to, not because it's weird or unusual.

I have no problem with a record which is largely based around more traditional Pearl Jam songwriting tropes so long as they're good songs that they've approached in the same way.

bune wrote:

EwanRider wrote:

GreenMosquito1996 wrote:I don't know if it's been discussed before, but is Boom still with the gang ?

Interesting tidbit. As far as I'm aware, and I could well be wrong, Boom is pretty much nothing more than a touring member, he hasn't had any notable recorded contributions since Riot Act, so there's no reason to assume he wouldn't be, but I was listening to Marc Maron's pod with Josh Klinghoffer (recently binned Chili Pepper) today and he (Maron) mentioned that Klinghoffer would be doing some stuff on stage with PJ on this upcoming tour as well as opening.

Could just be a throwaway comment with zero truth in it, but if this was the case I can't see any need for a 4th guitarist onstage, and given that the guys album he's touring behind is basically piano/keyboard based songs, maybe there's something there. Perhaps I've just become a mad Pit conspiracy theorist.

Birds in Hell wrote:Dance of the Clairvoyants works because it's a strong song with good ideas which they committed to, not because it's weird or unusual.

I have no problem with a record which is largely based around more traditional Pearl Jam songwriting tropes so long as they're good songs that they've approached in the same way.

Birds in Hell wrote:

bune wrote:

EwanRider wrote:

GreenMosquito1996 wrote:I don't know if it's been discussed before, but is Boom still with the gang ?

Interesting tidbit. As far as I'm aware, and I could well be wrong, Boom is pretty much nothing more than a touring member, he hasn't had any notable recorded contributions since Riot Act, so there's no reason to assume he wouldn't be, but I was listening to Marc Maron's pod with Josh Klinghoffer (recently binned Chili Pepper) today and he (Maron) mentioned that Klinghoffer would be doing some stuff on stage with PJ on this upcoming tour as well as opening.

Could just be a throwaway comment with zero truth in it, but if this was the case I can't see any need for a 4th guitarist onstage, and given that the guys album he's touring behind is basically piano/keyboard based songs, maybe there's something there. Perhaps I've just become a mad Pit conspiracy theorist.

Could be something lost in translation but Maron’s comment does sound like Klinghoffer will be actually playing with the band in some capacity.

stip wrote:Indifference, Around the Bend, and All or None are sparse ballads the way I'm sure stone is using the song. Go, Brain of J, and Grievance are rockers. So is Supersonic, Can't Deny Me, and Getaway. The issue will be which one we get

RAG319 wrote:Stone's comments have me worried. Though I'm not big on DotC (really disappointed on first listen, but after a few more times I'm whelmed), I do most enjoy the sound of them trying different stuff and getting out of their comfort zone.

But there's gonna be some "straight ahead rockers" reads like this is the most experimental the record gets and will be sort of a bait and switch. Please please please don't let Buckle Up be a generic (geriatric?) three-chord turd.

RAG319 wrote:Stone's comments have me worried. Though I'm not big on DotC (really disappointed on first listen, but after a few more times I'm whelmed), I do most enjoy the sound of them trying different stuff and getting out of their comfort zone.

But there's gonna be some "straight ahead rockers" reads like this is the most experimental the record gets and will be sort of a bait and switch. Please please please don't let Buckle Up be a generic (geriatric?) three-chord turd.

Strat wrote:

stip wrote:Indifference, Around the Bend, and All or None are sparse ballads the way I'm sure stone is using the song. Go, Brain of J, and Grievance are rockers. So is Supersonic, Can't Deny Me, and Getaway. The issue will be which one we get

and which ones are you rooting for, my dear stip!?

stip wrote:

Strat wrote:

stip wrote:Indifference, Around the Bend, and All or None are sparse ballads the way I'm sure stone is using the song. Go, Brain of J, and Grievance are rockers. So is Supersonic, Can't Deny Me, and Getaway. The issue will be which one we get

and which ones are you rooting for, my dear stip!?

i left off the good late period songs so as to not confuse the issue

bodysnatcher wrote:Listening to LB at the gym sounds like the worst experience. I feel like I’d end up just standing in the free weights area, staring at myself in the mirror, pondering all of the mistakes I’ve made in my life.

bodysnatcher wrote:Listening to LB at the gym sounds like the worst experience. I feel like I’d end up just standing in the free weights area, staring at myself in the mirror, pondering all of the mistakes I’ve made in my life.

Leatherhead wrote:

MikeyIsGod wrote:

pnjguy wrote:Stone saying "'we're excited to go on tour and play these new songs, they're very playable"

very different than

Thom Yorke saying after making Kid A "i don't know how we're going to play this stuff live."

This album is not going to be a major departure as some of us thought after hearing Dance.

well, i don't know what your thoughts on it are, but a couple friends and i agree that, for example, Infallible sounds much better live than on the record. maybe given the prickly relationship i have with DOTC illustrates why i personally feel that way but Infallible feels a bit heavier (not just guitar wise). it feels like it has a little more umph to it. to a lesser extent in the same way the modern live version of No Way does. so perhaps the more electronic centric songs on this record will find a more organic balance in the live setting. plus if Klinghoffer actually is going to chime in here or there we could see something quite interesting.

Who the fuck cares about the live setting? How many times do you see PJ live vs. how many times do you listen to the song on the album? How the hell does Infallible sound heavier than this song? Infallible sounds like a pansy ass motherfucker next to DOTC.