Red Mosquito

bodysnatcher wrote:

Coach wrote:

Hatfield wrote:

Coach wrote:Once in awhile I'll listen to this; I'd be more excited if it wasn't placed on the new album. It doesn't feel like it's complete enough to be a first single. Maybe it's the lack of a proper bridge and that chorus. But still, that first 30-40 seconds is great. I don't see how anyone could have a problem w/ that portion of the song.

You know it's gotten bad in Pearl Jam land when the guy who didn't feel like I Got Id lived up to Pearl Jam's standards is defending the quality of 30-40 seconds of their new single.

I never understood why I Got Id was/continues to be so underrated. It's a great tune, if you ask me.

top 10 for me

Fun fact - I Got ID is one of two PJ songs that hit the top 10 of the Billboard Hot 100 (peaked at #7). The other one is Last Kiss (#2).

Just Breathe only made #78 but is their most successful single ever in the US (certified platinum). It became something of a crossover hit, and had they promoted it a bit more then it could easily have become bigger.

Can't Deny Me is ass.

I wonder how big Black and Betterman would become if PJ did the whole shebang and properly release them as singles with a huge video. Easily top 10 and possibly number 1 given that they were the biggest band on the planet at the time.

lecherouslittlestump wrote:I wonder how big Black and Betterman would become if PJ did the whole shebang and properly release them as singles with a huge video. Easily top 10 and possibly number 1 given that they were the biggest band on the planet at the time.

Good point. If they would've promoted their stuff like, say, U2 would have, they could have easily had several more big(ger) hits. Black, Daughter, Betterman for sure.

Didn’t Epic want to release Black as a single, and the band/Eddie refused?

IF they had pushed any of those songs mentioned in a big way we probably wouldn’t be talking about Pearl Jam right now.

Yeah they would have been gone after Vitalogy

Definitely would have. Especially in light of cobain. They would have imploded quite whickly

I don't get it. Why?

They already were uncomfortable with the level of fame and demands on them.

But had those songs been pushed and promoted to the hilt, the public would have tired really really quickly.

dimejinky99 wrote:They already were uncomfortable with the level of fame and demands on them.

But had those songs been pushed and promoted to the hilt, the public would have tired really really quickly.

I’m on board with this.

On the rare occasion these days when I hear a new artist/song that I like ... maybe 2 months later I’m out becuase it’s the only fucking thing on the radio all day long and I’m totally sick of it.

Bammer wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:They already were uncomfortable with the level of fame and demands on them.

But had those songs been pushed and promoted to the hilt, the public would have tired really really quickly.

I’m on board with this.

On the rare occasion these days when I hear a new artist/song that I like ... maybe 2 months later I’m out becuase it’s the only fucking thing on the radio all day long and I’m totally sick of it.

Sounds like you’re a rebel just for kicks

bodysnatcher wrote:Didn’t Epic want to release Black as a single, and the band/Eddie refused?

Yes...and not only that i'm sure they wanted to do a video as a Jeremy follow up.

It would have been an absolute monster of a hit.

Were there not also tales of Eddie intentionally botching Betterman in the studio during the Vs. sessions, not feeling comfortable releasing it at that stage in their careers.

Thurman Murman wrote:

bodysnatcher wrote:Didn’t Epic want to release Black as a single, and the band/Eddie refused?

Yes...and not only that i'm sure they wanted to do a video as a Jeremy follow up.

It would have been an absolute monster of a hit.

Were there not also tales of Eddie intentionally botching Betterman in the studio during the Vs. sessions, not feeling comfortable releasing it at that stage in their careers.

Yeah BOB had to convince him to even record it.

I can't understand why when Eddie is writing a political song he is so passionate about it sucks so much. The lyrics are just plain bad. This song is actually pretty good live but the studio take was a very bad one and while its good live the lyrics are bad. Bushleaguer is the same.

I wish he'd go all out and just go in like Axl Rose on Get in the Ring "CMON MOTHERFUCKER! SUCK MY FUCKIN DICK!"

I mean seriously we all know what the song is about why does he have to cloud everything in multiple layers of nonsense words? Half of the lyrics mean nothing.

mikejasond wrote:I mean seriously we all know what the song is about why does he have to cloud everything in multiple layers of nonsense words? Half of the lyrics mean nothing.

Pearl Jam: Here are some songs about school shootings, homelessness, abused women, and feeling isolated.

1993: Ugh, you’re so whiny. Have a little fun!

(Later)

2018: You know what topics are on my mind a lot these days?

Pearl Jam: Retirement.

mikejasond wrote:I mean seriously we all know what the song is about why does he have to cloud everything in multiple layers of nonsense words? Half of the lyrics mean nothing.

I actually get what Ed is saying because my mind - it ain’t so simple

McParadigm wrote: 2018: You know what topics are on my mind a lot these days?

Pearl Jam: Retirement.

At least it's relatable to where their audience is.

mikejasond wrote:I can't understand why when Eddie is writing a political song he is so passionate about it sucks so much. The lyrics are just plain bad. This song is actually pretty good live but the studio take was a very bad one and while its good live the lyrics are bad. Bushleaguer is the same.

I wish he'd go all out and just go in like Axl Rose on Get in the Ring "CMON MOTHERFUCKER! SUCK MY FUCKIN DICK!"

I do not wish he would do that

McParadigm wrote:

Bammer wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:They already were uncomfortable with the level of fame and demands on them.

But had those songs been pushed and promoted to the hilt, the public would have tired really really quickly.

I’m on board with this.

On the rare occasion these days when I hear a new artist/song that I like ... maybe 2 months later I’m out becuase it’s the only fucking thing on the radio all day long and I’m totally sick of it.

Sounds like you’re a rebel just for kicks

I'm just out here living for the moment, bruh.

It is July 30, 2018

and this song still sucks