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Re: NHL Thread

Posted: Tue June 25, 2013 9:31 pm
by elliseamos
Thomas or Luongo to Philly?!

Re: NHL Thread

Posted: Tue June 25, 2013 9:36 pm
by shinkdew
elliseamos wrote:Thomas or Luongo to Philly?!
Nabokov.

Re: NHL Thread

Posted: Tue June 25, 2013 9:48 pm
by elliseamos
shinkdew wrote:
elliseamos wrote:Thomas or Luongo to Philly?!
Nabokov.
they've got plenty to choose from as either UFA or thru a trade:

T. Thomas (UFA)
R. Luongo
E. Nabokov (UFA)
B. Elliot
J. Halak
R. Miller
J. Hiller
M. Smith (UFA)
R. Emery (UFA)
J. Theodore (UFA)

and don't forget about T. Rask and J. Bernier as RFA.

should be a fun offseason.

Re: NHL Thread

Posted: Tue June 25, 2013 9:59 pm
by shinkdew
elliseamos wrote:
shinkdew wrote:
elliseamos wrote:Thomas or Luongo to Philly?!
Nabokov.
they've got plenty to choose from as either UFA or thru a trade:

T. Thomas (UFA)
R. Luongo
E. Nabokov (UFA)
B. Elliot
J. Halak
R. Miller
J. Hiller
M. Smith (UFA)
R. Emery (UFA)
J. Theodore (UFA)

and don't forget about T. Rask and J. Bernier as RFA.

should be a fun offseason.
Forgot Khudobin, who I wouldn't be surprised if the Islanders sign to replace Nabby, if the Bruins don't resign him.

Re: NHL Thread

Posted: Tue June 25, 2013 10:06 pm
by elliseamos
shinkdew wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
shinkdew wrote:
elliseamos wrote:Thomas or Luongo to Philly?!
Nabokov.
they've got plenty to choose from as either UFA or thru a trade:

T. Thomas (UFA)
R. Luongo
E. Nabokov (UFA)
B. Elliot
J. Halak
R. Miller
J. Hiller
M. Smith (UFA)
R. Emery (UFA)
J. Theodore (UFA)

and don't forget about T. Rask and J. Bernier as RFA.

should be a fun offseason.
Forgot Khudobin, who I wouldn't be surprised if the Islanders sign to replace Nabby, if the Bruins don't resign him.
I'd be shocked if a team handed him the opportunity to be #1 after only one season (and a shortened one at that) of being the #2 man.

I just checked capgeek, and I want the Bs to replace horton with bickell after they spend all their cap space on tuukka.

Re: NHL Thread

Posted: Tue June 25, 2013 10:27 pm
by Fuck You Jobu
elliseamos wrote:
Peeps wrote:embellishing?

you can just stop your "journey for justice" right there....
oh lord. i've gotten my answer (there's no consistency, like most other rules). now crawl back under the rock you've been under since sidney choked.

There's plenty of room to join him under the Choke Rock :D

Re: NHL Thread

Posted: Tue June 25, 2013 11:17 pm
by Peeps
Fuck You Jobu wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
Peeps wrote:embellishing?

you can just stop your "journey for justice" right there....
oh lord. i've gotten my answer (there's no consistency, like most other rules). now crawl back under the rock you've been under since sidney choked.

There's plenty of room to join him under the Choke Rock :D

seriously. the pens as a whole did shit the bed, but unless you finished first you're still a loser

Re: NHL Thread

Posted: Tue June 25, 2013 11:19 pm
by MattA75
Fuck You Jobu wrote:
surfndestroy wrote:Congrats to Chicago. They were the better team. Boston had their chances and Chicago were able to turn them aside when it counted. Both teams had a lot of injuries and Chicago was better able to rise to the occassion. It was great hockey to watch and hopefully there'll be a rematch somewhere down the road.

All that said, totally not surprised to see Boychuck looking lost on the winning goal. I so wish Bruins would get rid of him. Trade him to Vancouver for Bieksa. Bieksa would make a great Bruin and Boychuck would help Vancouver's powerplay.
If Boychuck went to Vanc, he'd be even more hated after the hit on Toews.
problem with that trade is that the Bruins are already going to shuffle some things to bring back Tuukka and possibly Horton...Bieksa's contract is a stupid stupid contract (4.75 or 5 mill)...I'd love that trade as a Vancouver fan, Bieksa's best days are long gone, and I like Boychuk's all around game, and Vancouver would save some cap space...he'd be great with Hamhuis...but it's never gonna happen

Re: NHL Thread

Posted: Wed June 26, 2013 12:16 am
by shinkdew
elliseamos wrote:I'd be shocked if a team handed him the opportunity to be #1 after only one season (and a shortened one at that) of being the #2 man.

I just checked capgeek, and I want the Bs to replace horton with bickell after they spend all their cap space on tuukka.
I think he's probably like their 4th-5th option, but he'd be a classic Snow signing; guy who had success in AHL but never given a shot in the NHL. I think it'd be a huge risk, but they may not have any other option if they can't sign Nabby, Smith or any of the other UFAs.

Re: NHL Thread

Posted: Wed June 26, 2013 12:18 am
by numbers
I dont want the B's to re-sign Horton if it's too cap constricting. As much as everyone hates Peverley and Kelly right now, I dont want the Bruins to relinquish their best strength as a team(their depth) to keep Horton. If they can find a player in a comparable situation to Horton 3 years ago I'd much rather have that. Everyone who plays with Krejci looks great, go back and look what he did to Blake Wheeler when they played together.

Re: NHL Thread

Posted: Wed June 26, 2013 12:42 am
by warehouse
elliseamos wrote:
shinkdew wrote:
elliseamos wrote:Thomas or Luongo to Philly?!
Nabokov.
they've got plenty to choose from as either UFA or thru a trade:

T. Thomas (UFA)
R. Luongo
E. Nabokov (UFA)
B. Elliot
J. Halak
R. Miller
J. Hiller
M. Smith (UFA)
R. Emery (UFA)
J. Theodore (UFA)

and don't forget about T. Rask and J. Bernier as RFA.

should be a fun offseason.
i hope they sign emery to back up mason.

Re: NHL Thread

Posted: Wed June 26, 2013 1:20 am
by elliseamos
numbers wrote:I dont want the B's to re-sign Horton if it's too cap constricting. As much as everyone hates Peverley and Kelly right now, I dont want the Bruins to relinquish their best strength as a team(their depth) to keep Horton. If they can find a player in a comparable situation to Horton 3 years ago I'd much rather have that. Everyone who plays with Krejci looks great, go back and look what he did to Blake Wheeler when they played together.
right, i'd like to see soderberg stick on the NHL roster. so assuming rask gets the big contract, they'd have to go filler the rest of the way (short of a buyout/trade). I'm expecting daugavins to be let go, caron's contract should be more friendly b/c he's restricted, and then a guy like pandolfo (not him exactly, but in his situation) would fill out the roster.

lucic-krecji-soderberg
marchand-bergeron-seguin
peverley-kelly-caron/vet-minimum-guy
paille-campbell-thornton
chara-seidenberg
boychuk-bartkowski/krug
mcquaid-hamilton
rask
svedberg (AHL goalie of the year this past season)

that looks fine to me.

Re: NHL Thread

Posted: Wed June 26, 2013 1:22 am
by elliseamos
Fuck You Jobu wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
Peeps wrote:embellishing?

you can just stop your "journey for justice" right there....
oh lord. i've gotten my answer (there's no consistency, like most other rules). now crawl back under the rock you've been under since sidney choked.

There's plenty of room to join him under the Choke Rock :D
no hiding from me. folks on here should know that by now.

Re: NHL Thread

Posted: Wed June 26, 2013 1:25 pm
by sportsfreakpete6
I am not so secretly hoping the Flyers bring back Emery

Re: NHL Thread

Posted: Thu June 27, 2013 12:07 am
by numbers
elliseamos wrote:
numbers wrote:I dont want the B's to re-sign Horton if it's too cap constricting. As much as everyone hates Peverley and Kelly right now, I dont want the Bruins to relinquish their best strength as a team(their depth) to keep Horton. If they can find a player in a comparable situation to Horton 3 years ago I'd much rather have that. Everyone who plays with Krejci looks great, go back and look what he did to Blake Wheeler when they played together.
right, i'd like to see soderberg stick on the NHL roster. so assuming rask gets the big contract, they'd have to go filler the rest of the way (short of a buyout/trade). I'm expecting daugavins to be let go, caron's contract should be more friendly b/c he's restricted, and then a guy like pandolfo (not him exactly, but in his situation) would fill out the roster.

lucic-krecji-soderberg
marchand-bergeron-seguin
peverley-kelly-caron/vet-minimum-guy
paille-campbell-thornton
chara-seidenberg
boychuk-bartkowski/krug
mcquaid-hamilton
rask
svedberg (AHL goalie of the year this past season)

that looks fine to me.
I think they would still have enough money left to get a guy that could plug into the 1st line on a short deal and then soderberg can start out on the 3rd line. What's important is they arent tying what they could use for 3 decent players into one player(who is injury ridden, despite his great playoff exploits.) Horton isnt a fuck up the cap level player.

Re: NHL Thread

Posted: Thu June 27, 2013 12:10 am
by numbers
btw, it got lost in the shuffle after the loss, but I LOVED what I saw out of Soderberg in game 6, high hopes for him now.

Re: NHL Thread

Posted: Thu June 27, 2013 12:14 am
by elliseamos
numbers wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
numbers wrote:I dont want the B's to re-sign Horton if it's too cap constricting. As much as everyone hates Peverley and Kelly right now, I dont want the Bruins to relinquish their best strength as a team(their depth) to keep Horton. If they can find a player in a comparable situation to Horton 3 years ago I'd much rather have that. Everyone who plays with Krejci looks great, go back and look what he did to Blake Wheeler when they played together.
right, i'd like to see soderberg stick on the NHL roster. so assuming rask gets the big contract, they'd have to go filler the rest of the way (short of a buyout/trade). I'm expecting daugavins to be let go, caron's contract should be more friendly b/c he's restricted, and then a guy like pandolfo (not him exactly, but in his situation) would fill out the roster.

lucic-krecji-soderberg
marchand-bergeron-seguin
peverley-kelly-caron/vet-minimum-guy
paille-campbell-thornton
chara-seidenberg
boychuk-bartkowski/krug
mcquaid-hamilton
rask
svedberg (AHL goalie of the year this past season)

that looks fine to me.
I think they would still have enough money left to get a guy that could plug into the 1st line on a short deal and then soderberg can start out on the 3rd line. What's important is they arent tying what they could use for 3 decent players into one player(who is injury ridden, despite his great playoff exploits.) Horton isnt a fuck up the cap level player.
with the above roster, they've got $400K in cap space. like i said, short of dumping any one of peverley/kelly/boychuk, this would be my prediction of the squad.

Re: NHL Thread

Posted: Thu June 27, 2013 12:16 am
by numbers
elliseamos wrote:
numbers wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
numbers wrote:I dont want the B's to re-sign Horton if it's too cap constricting. As much as everyone hates Peverley and Kelly right now, I dont want the Bruins to relinquish their best strength as a team(their depth) to keep Horton. If they can find a player in a comparable situation to Horton 3 years ago I'd much rather have that. Everyone who plays with Krejci looks great, go back and look what he did to Blake Wheeler when they played together.
right, i'd like to see soderberg stick on the NHL roster. so assuming rask gets the big contract, they'd have to go filler the rest of the way (short of a buyout/trade). I'm expecting daugavins to be let go, caron's contract should be more friendly b/c he's restricted, and then a guy like pandolfo (not him exactly, but in his situation) would fill out the roster.

lucic-krecji-soderberg
marchand-bergeron-seguin
peverley-kelly-caron/vet-minimum-guy
paille-campbell-thornton
chara-seidenberg
boychuk-bartkowski/krug
mcquaid-hamilton
rask
svedberg (AHL goalie of the year this past season)

that looks fine to me.
I think they would still have enough money left to get a guy that could plug into the 1st line on a short deal and then soderberg can start out on the 3rd line. What's important is they arent tying what they could use for 3 decent players into one player(who is injury ridden, despite his great playoff exploits.) Horton isnt a fuck up the cap level player.
with the above roster, they've got $400K in cap space. like i said, short of dumping any one of peverley/kelly/boychuk, this would be my prediction of the squad.
Do your numbers include re-using Savard's money?

Re: NHL Thread

Posted: Thu June 27, 2013 12:18 am
by elliseamos
numbers wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
numbers wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
numbers wrote:I dont want the B's to re-sign Horton if it's too cap constricting. As much as everyone hates Peverley and Kelly right now, I dont want the Bruins to relinquish their best strength as a team(their depth) to keep Horton. If they can find a player in a comparable situation to Horton 3 years ago I'd much rather have that. Everyone who plays with Krejci looks great, go back and look what he did to Blake Wheeler when they played together.
right, i'd like to see soderberg stick on the NHL roster. so assuming rask gets the big contract, they'd have to go filler the rest of the way (short of a buyout/trade). I'm expecting daugavins to be let go, caron's contract should be more friendly b/c he's restricted, and then a guy like pandolfo (not him exactly, but in his situation) would fill out the roster.

lucic-krecji-soderberg
marchand-bergeron-seguin
peverley-kelly-caron/vet-minimum-guy
paille-campbell-thornton
chara-seidenberg
boychuk-bartkowski/krug
mcquaid-hamilton
rask
svedberg (AHL goalie of the year this past season)

that looks fine to me.
I think they would still have enough money left to get a guy that could plug into the 1st line on a short deal and then soderberg can start out on the 3rd line. What's important is they arent tying what they could use for 3 decent players into one player(who is injury ridden, despite his great playoff exploits.) Horton isnt a fuck up the cap level player.
with the above roster, they've got $400K in cap space. like i said, short of dumping any one of peverley/kelly/boychuk, this would be my prediction of the squad.
Do your numbers include re-using Savard's money?
yes. the above roster assumes he's LTIR'd.

also:
Shawn Hutcheon: Hearing the Bruins won’t be re-signing Andrew Ference and could be looking to trade Rich Peverley and Johnny Boychuk.
I'm surprised by the "and" between those two players.

this sounds good, if by less Horton means he'll take less than he made this year.

Re: NHL Thread

Posted: Thu June 27, 2013 1:04 am
by numbers
I would also be surprised to see both of those players traded. I'm not totally against moving Boychuk, but he brings a physical presence that Hamilton, Krug, or Bartkowski dont, especially with Ference being gone.